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Narutoonnichan

So Tatiana stole Palermo's man, his stepson AND his gold? Wow.The audacity...


ZeRoGr4vity07

How is he his stepson?


Avalanche_1996

This was when the show was starting losing me. Unnecessary plot.


Bubbly_Window9067

I actually felt differently, I didn't understand how Tatiana and Rafael were going to tie into the current heist. When their flashbacks were being shown I was losing interest because I didn't get their relevance. This all ties it in together. Remember that we've seen Tatiana in part 4 and Rafael in the first half of part 5, to have them do what they did gives them an integral role in the series otherwise their presence would then be unnecessary to me.


kichererbs

I kind of get it, like honor amongst thieves as a theme (since this show has been glorifying thieves in a way), but I’ll see how it continues. I also thought it was kind of cool like storytellingwise that you thought it was actually the police but then it wasn’t.


MSW_21

Yea. We didnt need a third villain.


Avalanche_1996

Thank you. I thought I was alone. The suspense was already there and much more powerful and interesting.


dougrayd

They’re just dumping characters on us now. Feels like it started with the special forces team


Cattaphract

Maybe it is to show the difference between a thief and revolutionists (thieves).


Spweenklz

Oh my gosh that's who it was?! I felt like he looked familiar and I couldn't place it. I thought he's an actor I've watched and couldn't remember who. I guess seeing them out of context threw me off. Which is really funny, considering it's a the same show, just different contexts in the fictional show.


Ok_Ad_8437

You may have Prosopagnosia, or “Face Blindness.” My mom has that and it’s hard for her to tell which characters are which if she sees them out of context. I have it a bit as well


BigBrainTosh

I hate to admit, but halfway through Berlin's meltdown in the bar, I literally asked myself out loud "What am I watching?". Funnily enough, I asked myself that same question 12 minutes earlier when Denver and Stockholm had their little "moment" in the vault. What the fuck was this episode? To give credit to them, that ending was very unexpected


hossel001

This show really has the tendency to make you roll your eyes in one moment, then be amazed by the writing in the next. It kind of feels like they've just been constantly trying to one up themselves, which eventually created these really unrealistic scenes. The overall plot is still, really good though


AmiAkin

Stockholm and Denver forgot they are in a heist and I’m still trying to understand…..where that clean as fuck suit came from


Pabiarzunio

We have been waiting for that happy Bella Ciao for so long and now we got it... It's great


Interesting-Tomato96

I smiled from ear to ear!!


Avalanche_1996

me too!


Odd_Appointment5171

Can't wait to have that version to listen to.


Avalanche_1996

Im looking it on YouTube!


Odd_Appointment5171

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Db3AJs5QU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Db3AJs5QU)


aleuhhh

literally had me grinning like a fool


Avalanche_1996

I LOVED it so so much!


bplboston17

BELLA CIAO CIAO CIAO


MSW_21

See, I didn't like it. The song was great, but I feel like it was ill-placed. There's still so much work to do


p1nkmatt3r

I thought Rafael and Tatiana would help them get out of the bank or something, NOT THIS. Actually fucking gasped.


GRACEKELLYISME

I'm still in shock. I can't fucking believe that. I feel so much hate for them now.


marcm6246

Same!! Me and my dad were wracking out brains trying to figure out how they would factor into the equation. Never did we think they'd pull a heist of the heist. Took me a minute to figure it out even as the professor was saying something was wrong.


dtarias

A great example of "work smarter, not harder"!


omgunicornfarts

My jaw was on the floor. I had so many bloody theories about these two and none were right lol.


leela_martell

I don't know at which point I've lost my sympathy for the main characters but I thought the ending was a fun twist. Berlin's a shit dad, his son didn't owe him any respect or loyalty.


Avalanche_1996

Yes and it was so unnecessary. The only plot I hated.


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Skeuomorphic_

Didn't know the series ended in this episode


THISISDAM

This, I was waiting for the help to happen.


Zannetidis

Was not expecting Spanish Fitz to steal the gold


Alexbasedgraham

Spanish Fitz 🤣🤣🤣


Skeuomorphic_

Lmaoo nice to a fellow AoS fan here as well!


sitah

Fuck that’s who he reminds me of!


temporal712

Oh thank god someone other than me sees that actor's resemblance to Iain De Caestecker. It's all I see when I look at him.


CIearMind

Holy shit, a fellow SHIELD fan.


fckboris

Love that Denver’s idea of patching things up with Monica is “I’m going to get *you* to do a striptease for *me*”


KimmiK_saucequeen

Men lol


ApeMillz93

Denver is the goat


BrandonXavierIngram

It was kind of obvious Berlin's son would steal his wife, right?


calmergirl07

Yeah it was very obvious but stealing the gold was something we did not see coming


Manga18

On the other hand we knew all those flashback had to serve some purpose


calmergirl07

It was just assumed that he would help them in getting the gold somehow


kie_m

What a waste of sperm


AmiAkin

I choked


DaThings

everyone was expecting it but geez his son getting with Tatiana was hard


Pabiarzunio

Yep it was really hard to watch


Due_Volume_8450

ughhhh so Marseille was right they should've fought them off


Avalanche_1996

Totally! Sometimes I hate professor idealism after there has been a slaughter already. I just wish they killed him. Professor would maybe recognize Rafael and I wouldn't have to survive this subplot any more.


calmergirl07

Oh man yess


adriannelestrange

Midway thru episode 8..on the scene where police is approaching stormwater tank and the professor is alp shocked I understand he has all escape answers but how tf did he not think there's a possibility police can reach there I mean.. they Might not be as smart but there still is 5% chance they will reach the tank given there's no other way to get the gold out HOW IS HE SURPRISED AND IN SHOCK?


Yung_BaseLord

I was confused about that too. Even if it wasn't actually the police, you would think he would have a back up plan. But I guess it's because it was Berlin's plan not his and Berlin is more risky.


Valuable_Gas_5793

I thought they had people on the perimeter to secure it but then they randomly disappeared when the fake cops showed up?


AmiAkin

Wait am I misunderstanding something? I thought the professor did think the police would get there that’s why he was against it. In a previous flashback he basically said everything is over if the police get to the Stormwater tank first because they would be no way out of it. Which is why Berlin and Palermo were talking about being geniuses and some shit…


fahque650

I think the plan was to light them up but prof. didn't want more blood on his hands.


iszzieanna

These jump scares with Monica gotta stop


skipthebeer

Yeah they really gotta stop, you can try to call netflix and see if they can remove the scenes. They are really disturbing and I get very scared when I see them. Hopefully netflix or the money heist production sees this. Thank you for your consideration and cooperation. Regards Deez nuts


Achluophobia003

Wasn't funny


alwayslearning100

Tbh I liked the twist bc finally there was something unpredictable (at least for me)


crisseur

when they sang Bella ciao…. I miss the original cast so much


Avalanche_1996

Who do you miss the most? (I do agree with you)


Bbyys

Everyone knows who we miss most :)


Avalanche_1996

I mean Nairobi was so-so in s 1-2. Didn't get attention and storyline. They made her stand out close to her death!


hechoEnMiami

I was big Nairobi fan during the first heist too. I thought she was hilarious and I liked her craziness. She reminded me of my aunt.


jk021

Moscow was a class act and deserved to shine more


Hopelessnance

He was! He really put Tokyo in her place. The only thing I didn’t like about Moscow was that he was so pessimistic about he and Denver being nothing and will always be nothing. That made me so sad.


pearyid

When The Professor decided to give up...wtf? Did he not have a plan to deal with the police storming the stormwater tank? All this work and loss of lives to get the gold just to surrender like this what the actual fuck


pandora30012

that was a bit of a let down. after all this work, after escaping a whole army in madrid he just got caught like that? he didnt build an extra wall to hide behind or any other of his tricks. seems weird


cainghazal

This was sooo anticlimatic he has a plan for everything and the Police arriving at the tank isn't even Something random that could never be possible, i think it was just a matter of time so why dient the professor do anything??


raintoshine

I think it’s because he was 100% sure they wouldn’t find them. That was never excepted. BECAUSE the police thought the gold was going down stream. And he was right, If Berlin hadn’t told his wife, the plan would’ve worked and he wouldn’t need plan B


Hopelessnance

That’s exactly how I interpreted it too. But I see why folks are shocked. Even Tokyo was shocked that there was no plan B When he got caught by Elicia.


riziger

Maybe the next 2 episodes will address this but honestly…. The one thing to have a plan for should’ve surely been this


Cattaphract

They made a point that the plan was fail proof because the police won't check their location but are busy running the entire other side. He critisized Berlin and Palermo and they gave him a satisfying answer. What he didn't calculate was an insider attacking them so he gave up because something happened out of possibilities, assuming the police managed to find them, in his mind impossible. In all the other alternative plans, he made backup plans for things that can happen. For this he thought it wouldn't be possible.


Hopelessnance

Right! Or at least he knew they would be long gone before the cops would think to check the other direction After driving miles and miles downstream.


kayterluv

With that ending, I'd actually cry if I was a part of the heist. To see this heist through and lose people along the way, only to have some random people steal the gold, would be a gigantic pill to swallow. Survival would be my priority on the inside, but to lose the gold after being somewhat assured that it was finally out of the bank would make me lose my mind.


Avalanche_1996

I totally agree. I hated that plot to be honest.


vexrey

The people who stole it aren’t random people lol did you not see the ending ?


kayterluv

I saw the ending of the episode and the show. All they knew was that a group of people came in pretending to be the police and stole the gold. From their perspective, it was random. In case you are unaware, the characters don't see everything the audience sees.


Fazlija13

So you are telling me professor, whos backup plans had backup plans, didn't assume they would find him? Bullshit. EDIT: Just finished the episode, I take the first statement back, this is even fucking worse


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TATIANA AND RAFAEL? dude rafael is a fkn pro, his father's wife, his uncle's gold, woah!


ShivanshuShekhar

u/_Aftergloww Dude. You being on this thread was a bigger twist than the whole ending


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emilythewise

For a moment I thought Berlin was following Tatiana to kill her, but I guess that wouldn't play well for a character who's going to lead a spinoff. Man. This Berlin is so mismatched with the Berlin of the first two seasons. They've scrubbed away everything ugly and actually frightening about him to make him more palatable to the audience. Kind of disappointed with the resolution of what landed him in prison, as well. He *let* himself be caught, naturally. And he was arrested over some cool flashy vandalism after graciously and courteously parting with the two people who had betrayed and humiliated him. In addition to being thoroughly sanitized, Berlin's become a bit of a power fantasy character, hasn't he?


dangerouslyarrogant

While I agree they've made him waaay more sympathetic because of his fans (and sweet sweet money from the spin-off), it's remotely possible that Rafael and Tatiana situation made him worse. Humiliate and hurt a narcissist and you can expect him to become abusive (especially toward women in this case).


raintoshine

That’s my thinking too. Gotta remember these were flashbacks way back


emilythewise

That's what I'd thought would happen, but I mean - his response to Rafael and Tatiana was extremely tame. He let them go in peace after kissing Tatiana on the hand, and expressed no rage to the Professor when he got out of jail, only heartbreak. Sure, you could say that his resentment built up over time, but that's kind of weak, and I doubt it will be covered. They're not going to make a Berlin series where he becomes increasingly misogynistic and abusive.


dangerouslyarrogant

I agree it was tame and that they toned him down to be more appealing to a wider audience - sure as hell I would've made a scene then and there if my son and wife did it behind my back (not a crime scene though). But I also believe they wanted us to feel sorry for Berlin and to emphasize the underlying theme that people act out of character when they're in love, just as Raquel explained in the following episode.


ZeRoGr4vity07

Well he stabbed a guy in the balls for basically no reason at all, although I don't quite remember if that was before or after the events of this episode.


dangerouslyarrogant

I had to be before because Palermo was still there and we know Berlin was going out with Tatiana when he told him to go away and heal his wounds. That bathroom scene was so sudden that I could almost hear the writers screaming in the background 'shit, we made Berlin too likeable! Quick, have him stab somebody in the balls because he was laughing at his bow tie!!!'


ZeRoGr4vity07

Oh yes, I fully expected him to lose his shit like that this episode.


Avalanche_1996

Yes after all he was a sociopath. Dangerous and icky. Wildcard. And the woman he forced to spend his last days of life? Yuck. That's what I loved about him in season 1-2. Now he's way different.


Donsisi

no wonder he let them catch him for such trivial mistake because he did that deliberately... he is a very poetic artistic man who doesn’t care to be caught on the expense of illustrating and painting his heartbreak he really sanctify love as he didn’t care of consequences of his doings after losing love ...the character in the first heist is in different conditions and after multiple traumas that helped carving this weird unpredictable character


AmiAkin

If they are doing a spin off with Berlin then what’s the point of aaalll these damn flashbacks of him? It’s too much


SmarcusStroman

They sure moved a metric fuckton of gold in "15-20 minutes"


GoodOldJack12

It was already in the truck


SmarcusStroman

Yup my bad!


jocobh22

Can someone please explain what happened? They moved the gold in pellets to the second to last location and then made the bars there? Im confused


SmarcusStroman

They moved the pellets upstream to the safe house, made them into bars and loaded them onto a truck. Then the truck was stolen with the gold already loaded in it.


MargielaMadman579

Definitely didn’t see the ending coming, but cmon now. They mean to tell me the professor didn’t have a backup plan for, if and when the cops catch onto where the gold is located. They really dumbed down the professor from the looks of things….


Jukazuki

Seriously Denver? One fucking conversation and all character development can go fuck yourself?


soadzombi

I was not expecting that. That was a fun twist. I NEEDED Berlin's backstory to payoff and I honestly think it did. His weakness, love, cost him dearly.


Flutegarden

I was getting so frutería aml the flashbacks this episode thinking there better be a payoff. There was but it was still too much focus on Berlin.


aleuhhh

I- They- Wow. I really wasn't expecting that. I thought they would be important because they HELP get the gold, not steal it from them I-😭😭 Holy shiz I really trusted them😃


marcm6246

Ikr! Crazy twist! I mean, the professor did warn Berlin not to tell Tatiana all about this plan. And look what happened lmao.


Jukazuki

I feel so pity for Stockholm I remember when my bf cheated on me and how I feel.. now I have anxiety, panic attacks. I'm on your side gurl.


ffiona_t

but let’s not forget that she was arturos mistress lol


nopelily

OH MY GOD PEOPLE MADE THEORIES THAT THEY WOULD HELP W THE HEIST AND THEY ENDED UP GOING AGAINST IT!! PLEASE I HOPE THE PROFESSOR WINS IN THE END THE ONLY ONE SHOW I HOPE THE BAD GUYS WIN IN THE END


Benandhispets

Ugh I said this last episode. It's so stupid that they're waiting for allll the gold to be done and then transport it in 1 vehicle at the end. As soon as 500-1000 bars are done load them into a vehicle and drive them away. Doesn't take someone smart to split it up and get it out of there ASAP. Surrendering was dumb too I know. They didn't even lock the doors to try and think of a plan to get some away. Instantly it was "yeah it's over". I feel like the professor would have had cameras at the other locations too so he could see how far away the police are, that would have made it clear fake police turned up. At least Berlin flashbacks have been made a bit relevant now since his son is in the current time.


Comprehensive-Hat504

Because that would have used up all the water that is supposed to carry the gold halfway through! Water supply is limited and they cannot fill it up again to pump gold. Hope it clears up.


sarthakdit

Holy fuck did not see this coming omfg omfg omfg


Jukazuki

The reversed dance in bunker was wholesome


MSW_21

That Bella Ciao scene seemed really ill-placed...there's still hotstages and police and all sorts of things to figure out!


Grand-Method-3265

It was in that moment I asked myself out loud if there were any hostages left in the building. This end of season is really for the fans.


Bubbly_Window9067

I remember thinking that last episode, no one was guarding hostages anymore so I think they all got out (?). I don't really remember when and how though.


fahque650

I thought for sure Arteche steps out and guns a few down during the celly.


Accomplished-Bed57

why tokyo still narrating if shes dead


runpbx

She's an ectoplasm being channeled through Stockholm's consciousness. Duh!


mxlibertyisland

love how he stole the girl and now he stealin’ the gold 🥴


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sitah

I was confused by this for sec. Do you mean to say stepmom? Anyway Berlin’s kid looks like he should be in Hogwarts.


heuesjfbed

each time they have a berlin flash back i progressively get more and more annoyed lol


Interesting-Tomato96

GET FUCKED!!!!!!!


Interesting-Tomato96

I’m soooo mad


adriannelestrange

Wtf Professor surrendered? Dude Let it be a blood bath to save your team Give them a wild goose chase What the fuck did the team do to deserve this. Professor is lost in his idealism of no slaughter when his team has been slaughtered for him. The team deserved better.


nopelily

i mean there was a comment made I forgot by who but how the professor gets to easily hide out while they have to do the hard work


AmiAkin

Well I think that’s partly why the professor feels guilty about their death hence he wants no more deaths. I mean Tokyo did also called him out on it too. When she said he gets to be out there safe etc…


normandyblues

BERLIN CUCKED BY HIS OWN SON? omg


neverbeenthiswoke

As his father had put it “I would have broken the sacred limits of family, and respects….just to satisfy my love” Woah did not see that coming….Rafael stole his father’s wife and uncle’s gold…


ishscer98

The only thing I do not get is how the Professor did not have a back up plan in case anyone found them in the tank. Even if he thought it was impossible, I still think he would usually have something up his sleeve.


mariamt

Can anyone tell me, if there is a studio version of bella ciao they sing in this episode?


Ssme812

That was some fucking bullshit. I hope the son gets killed.


Same-Wrangler524

I will say.. the whole Tatiana stealing the gold was kinda cheap , it made sense but it felt so weak , idk but that's just me


Redding237

I have to admit that ending was unexpected


SirClizby75

There’s been a plan for everything, & the professor didn’t have a plan for if they got caught with the gold?? Just surrender? - welp they found us...let’s put our hands up?


Evanamore

I really thought Zulema errr Alicia was going to prison. She'd do great in prison


patricktercot

Idk I hear there’s a bad bitch there named Macarena


aran0ia0

No but the moment they took off their masks, I freaking had to pause. I don't think I've ever felt angrier towards any fictional character. Well, great plot I guess. But man. I always had a soft spot for Berlin, since season 1 when he was just presented as a sadistic shit. Seeing him this season actually trying to create bonds and getting screwed left and right was painful enough. AND NOW THESE PIECES OF KAKA HAD THE AUDACITY...*deep breath 🧘‍♀️* I'm really hoping Palermo will get them in the most flamboyant, genius way possible. PS. Bella Ciao vol2 was epic. Need to apologize to my neighbors, my volume went from 20 to 100 reaaaaally fast


Pabiarzunio

Okay but wtf is going on with Monica this season she almost killed Denver


AmiAkin

I actually wanted Denver to punch her


Pabiarzunio

The ending of that episode was hard.. and the Tatiana and Rafael part.. shit


Kkhsamuel

I did NOT see that coming holy


BrandonXavierIngram

wait WHAT WAS THAT ENDING LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO


szanda

I don't even want to watch the last two episodes after this one.


AmiAkin

I feel so bad for the police. My gosh they are only trying to do the right thing by following the law but they keep getting fucked over Poor Tamayo , he has been through it 🤣 Then again he deserved it for trying to fuck over Sierra too


MrNotAFool

Tamayo can't catch a break, his stress levels must be through the roof and more, saying that I can't help but laugh when he realises he's been fucked over yet again


Bouncing_Ferret

I don’t care for the excessive Berlin flashbacks.


anxiousfinger

Just finished the ep. Oh for fucks sake


MadApple_

So how did they (Tatiana/Rafael) know that the professor et al were going through with the heist? They didn’t know when or if they were actually ever going to do it. So how did they know when to plan and prepare for this? What. *Belief suspension intensifies*


misspurrfectlyfine

They saw it on the news?


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fckboris

Holy shit dude spoilers?


Comprehensive-Hat504

News! And the son is a hacker. Could have hacked and knew the progress easily.


Spweenklz

I didn't understand the answer to Sergio's question of why the police wouldn't show up at the spot where they mold the gold into ingots.


stefkhalifa

From my understanding the police wouldn’t know about the stolen pipe they got which has a stronger force and can deliver the gold upstream into the stormwater tank that they’re in. The police would only suspect stormwater tanks directionally below the bank where the pipes lead to? Which makes the professors lack of double plans even worst because SURELY the police would probably just end up searching all the stormwater tanks in the area lmao


priths3

Professor : Am I a joke to you?


Arrow2019x

WILD episode, damn


planetharley

literally what was the point of Berlin and Tatiana's story edit: nvm just watched the end wtf was that


zecrom189

Yoooo berlin step son is a bitch for what he did stealing the gold?! Man fuck him


LastWarrior24

But why did the actual police found an abandoned tank? Shouldn't the Professor and the other 3 be there in the fake police van?


GRACEKELLYISME

The actual police went to the last possible stop south stormwater tank following the downstream current. The Professor and others were actually in a different stormwater tank located on the stream after it like, took a turn and went north instead. Palermo explains this in a flashback near the end of the episode. They figured out how to make the gold go upstream, the police didn't think that was possible so only followed the places going south. Edit - clarity


momchilandonov

But isn't this like a plot hole? The police knew they had a powerful pump to push the gold. They didn't knew exactly how powerful so naturally they would think about the possibility of the gold going north instead of south...


NaRaGaMo

If you watch closely police still think they used the pump from the vault and not the oil pump one


momchilandonov

The pump from the vault was too weak to move the gold a long distance and this was known to the police so they checked all possible exits if the robbers were to use the more powerful oul pump but only downstream. I don't recall when/how was it inserted into the vault. If the police also didn't knew about the oil pump then maybe you are right.


LastWarrior24

Got it thanks!


Manga18

I don't know if a useless and boring (for the 80%) episode like this is better or worse than an episode full of dumb but fun stuff like the others of this last chunk. I guess that Monica I cute and this saves the episode? But there is still some dumb stuff. How does the police know who is and who is not from the squad? It's not like they know everyone The ending is fire though, even if the baby was a plot device as the cat. The squad doesn't deserve the gold, they were too dumb in everything, also should I be sympathetic with Berlin? Because I'm not


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Banduck

You thought the professor was Berlin's son...?


Unique_Part_3763

I think more than 50% of people who watch the show thought that Rafael would help them too-


Narrow_Cast

I mean I thought The professor and Rafael were the same person though. I just misinterpreted it I guess


Clendetta

I LOVE YOUU BAAAYBEEEEYYY I’m a sucker for Berlin man


MSW_21

I'm gunna say it - this episode sucked. Between the lap dance, Rafaels silly interjection, Areteche climbing all over the place to go back to where she started then to go to the front...it was just dumber then normal


olgil75

I agree with you, but her going all over the place served a purpose because she was defusing the bombs placed throughout the building. The reason she went back to where she started was because the shrapnel was causing more damage and she needed to get a med kit to stitch herself up.


Spweenklz

I'm kind of confused how Tatiana and Rafael knew about the raid and the thing and the route...


devil_9

If you're still confused after finishing the series, I have an answer for that. Don't want to spoil anything if you haven't made it to the end yet though.


JubJub4Life

Well i certainly did not expect this twist


Arzrael

Does anyone know the name of the English Voice actor that dubs the Pipeline engineer consulting with Tamayo? He's at around 8:00 and his last appearance is at 14:00


5quirrel

I'm trying to find this out too, so familiar...


KingKingsons

I totally didn't see that twist coming. Curious to see where they can still take us over the last two episodes.


jocobh22

Can someone please explain what happened? They moved the gold in pellets to the second to last location and then made the bars there? Or did they move the pellets upstream to some other location that wasn't on the map? Im confused


mrgayle

Moved upstream but the police didn't consider it going upstream and only looked at the spots downstream.


gutig

this episode made me sooo mad


jageshgoyal

Professor didn't have a plan in case they are caught at the spot they are collecting all their gold? Wtf?


zecrom189

So denver is bi good for him