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UFO’s disguising themselves as stars/planets?

UFO’s disguising themselves as stars/planets?

gerkletoss

Venus is in the evening sky right now. It's extremely bright. I know you say it's not always there, but I'm suspicious that those might be nights with lower visibility.


beszterek

This is Jupiter. I had same thoughts as you and finally as i have binoculars for night sky watch, just checked this out. Through my binoculars, there is Jupiter with 3/4 visible moons in line :) It is really bright for naked eye, yes it is "shaking" because of atmosphere conditions, weather, sometimes your eye sugesstions (try looking longer on any star) and yes it is visible since a month.


skyersjet

It's probably Venus or Jupiter and just looks like its shaking because of the atmosphere or whatever.


InsidiousExpert

Is that something that happens? I was wondering if the atmosphere can make stars/planets appear to be moving. If it is a thing and you know of any good videos that document it I would really like to see it so I can compare it to what I was seeing.


skyersjet

Stars appear to flicker all the time that could appear as movement and I have myself been fooled by a star that I thought was moving when I lookout it out of a moving car. Film it with a tripod next time to be sure.


InsidiousExpert

I’m talking about unquestionable movements, like a full physical positional adjustment.


Allison1228

Wouldn’t a better disguise be “plain black night sky”, or “nothing”, if they wanted to remain unobserved? It sounds as though this object was attracting attention, not deflecting it.


yarf13

Ya there's literally no reason for camouflage. We have technology to view anything on the infrared, visible light and heat signature spectrums, from space...


TheCoastalCardician

All of those can be defeated and spoofed with our current tech.


yarf13

True but pretending to be a star isn't how they would spoof it.


TheCoastalCardician

I never said that. Truth is, I don’t know what our (USA) exact ECM capability is. I’m someone who digs deep when there’s something I want to truly understand. All I’ve found is we are able to manipulate the EM spectrum in ways that would make the enemy “see” something that isn’t there. The science exists for “high-end optical light ECM”, such as projecting images or actual plasma. If we have optical ECM, and it’s this “high-end stuff”, I am going to guess it’s only available in limited capacities. Sorry I don’t remember all the fancy terms lol. Perhaps they *can* pretend to be a star. Maybe it was a malfunction. Do I *think* that’s what this is? No, because spoofing a star sounds stupid af lol. (I’m always down to learn about pretty much anything EM spectrum as I’m working to understand it, so if you happen to be a SME, I’d love it if you could tell me more about what *is* possible. This is cool stuff!)


yarf13

Ya I didn't say you were guilty of anything. I was saying to someone else that pretending to be a star didn't make sense because we have advance detection for visible light as well as a bunch of others. I think you started responding to my thread.


grundle_salad

A couple months ago my wife and I were drunk on the balcony and saw something similar. They were in a triangle formation the whole time but were moving yet staying in that same triangle format. Isosceles, equilateral, to scalene. They looked like stars but were blinking in and out of existence. This was in Northern NJ. There was actually a [report](https://mobile.twitter.com/PIX11News/status/1448409422162800643?s=20) of UFOs on the local news today too about the same thing with a video in Paterson. NJ seems like a hotspot recently. Here’s some crazy shit from physicist Dr. Eric Davis on UFOs mimicking stars and meteors. It’s from *In Plain Sight* by Ross Coulthart. >There was also a paper by Dr Eric Davis, where he wrote matter-of-factly about how UAPs used mimicry techniques to hide their form, ‘entering the atmosphere with either the look or trajectory of a meteor or hidden within a meteor shower, behaving like dark meteors without the associated optical signature, hiding within an artificial or natural cloud, behaving as pseudo-stars sitting stationary over certain regions, or mimicking man-made aircrafts’ aggregate features. It’s real.


Chris_Ween

Get a real camera and video it with that on the next sighting.


InsidiousExpert

What type of camera would be ideal for this? I am still out here watching this thing and it is 100% moving in ways that no planet or star ever moves. It’s shifted over to a position behind some large trees (the leaves are blocking it but I can move around to find a spot where I can see it through gaps). I’m watching it through gaps now, and am staying perfectly still. It is moving enough to where it goes behind some leaves, back into my view, and repeat. In all directions too, not just one. I really hope someone who lives in my general area sees this post soon and can go out to see if they can locate it. I feel like someone needs to see this. I need to show someone what I’m seeing because I honestly cannot believe what I am seeing.


fookinmoonboy

Night vision optics, high quality preferred


InsidiousExpert

Any particular make/model? I know Jack shit about camera equipment.


fookinmoonboy

Sorry I’m not qualified there, I suggest finding an appropriate hobby sub on reddit though


SeattleReaderTiny

Drop a note to local photo club/forum, someone with decent DSLR camera should have proper tripod and zoom lens (set to manual focus) to video it.


Chris_Ween

I wouldn't know. But surely someone here can recommend.


InsidiousExpert

Hopefully it doesn’t require something super expensive because I have a daughter arriving in 2 weeks and can’t really afford to buy a crazy expensive camera at the moment.


clancydog4

I mean litreally just use your phone. Just take a video of it. If it's moving like you say it is, we will be able to see it. I honestly think it's just Jupiter though, it is EXTREMELY bright right now on the east coast and looks very unlike any star. It looks wild right now, honestly. I notice it every night for the past couple weeks -- it grabs my eye and think "woah what's that?" before realizing it's the same planet I've been seeing, haha. But I would love to be proven wrong, it's just hard to take a stranger at their word on the internet about something so wild and I would love to see a video


Acceptable-Archer-97

This was literally me a month or so ago, even after using the SkyView Lite app… and then one day it did something unexplainable in the sky (see my original comment) and the app no longer showed Jupiter. Multiple occurrences throughout the week, for the last few weeks.


yarf13

The Jupiter on the app is not based on the sky. It's based on a mathematical calculation of its trajectory coupled with your gps location.


clancydog4

What is more likely...that the app is wrong, or that a UFO is pretending to be Jupiter? I strongly, strongly believe the more likely scenario is that you are simply seeing Jupiter.


zukoooota

Oh hundo p I’ve sent many a good feelings and love to Jupiter over the past month.


voidspaceistrippy

To be fair, even a crappy video of a light in the sky is enough to debunk things. If it can't be debunked, then it will gain popularity. You just need to take a video of it and give ***all*** available information. Location, what direction you're facing, how long it has been there, time, date, etc.


MaceWinnoob

I don’t have too much to contribute except that I had this exact thought tonight. It was a slightly cloudy night, and most stars were not visible except a couple that seemed to pierce through the cloud layers. I didn’t see any movement so I’m convinced what I was seeing was probably just a bright planet, but it made me realize that it’s probably a really good strategy to keep an eye on the sky on cloudier nights.


caralarmbirdsong

Adding on here before I have time to read more comments: Yes, I'm close to the area and I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed! There does seem to be some movement in certain lights in the sky that one could shrug off as stars, but they seem to shift in a way I don't remember ever seeing from a star before, and while I haven't been going out and checking every night, I first noticed weeks ago. As well, it may have been a trick of the light, but I've started suspecting camoflauge too. Caught a shape in the sky of something like a triangle, but more boney, without catching sight of the triangle's sides, if that makes sense, but the shape nearly blended in with the nightsky. Again, it went by fast out of sight and may have been a trick of the light, but after seeing the "bobbing star" a few too many times, I found it pretty noteworthy due to the potential commonality of disguises.


Allison1228

Do you see Jupiter in addition to your "UFO"? It's one of the very brightest objects in the night sky and should be in the southeast after sunset, gradually moving to the south by midnight, and to the southwest as sunrise approaches. If you don't see Jupiter also, then you're probably looking at Jupiter. Try pointing a stationary camera at it and recording some video - I predict that the erratic motions you think you are seeing won't be seen on the video.


InsidiousExpert

The location of Jupiter is too low for me to see because of the dense tree cover. My view starts at about 45 degrees up. Everything below that is completely obscured by the wooded area. I used the Augmented Reality feature on the app and unless I am using it wrong, it definitely isn’t Jupiter.


Allison1228

Jupiter presently has a declination of -15 degrees, so its maximum altitude for you would be given by the formula: (90 - your latitude) - 15 Plugging in 40 for your latitude, Jupiter should reach a maximum height above the horizon of about 35 degrees when it's directly south of you at about 10 or 11 pm. Can you see the moon? Jupiter now (midnight) should be to the upper-left of the moon by about twenty degrees. If you make a fist and hold it at arm's length, the apparent length of the fist is about ten degrees. If your object is the bright object two fists to the upper-left of the moon, that's Jupiter. Tommorow night the moon will be just a few degrees southwest of Jupiter, so there's another opportunity to verify your object.


Acceptable-Archer-97

Hey, the way this is explained it totally seems to check out as being Jupiter, from my vantage. What’s odd is the SkyView Lite app shows two different things from two different vantage points (opposite sides of the hospital campus) and neither were Jupiter.. Shite app?


Allison1228

I'm not familiar with it, but maybe it's not configured properly or something. It won't present reliable results if the date, time, and location are not set correctly. Maybe see if it's showing the moon in the right place as a general indicator.


Acceptable-Archer-97

I do not allow data tracking/location tracking on any app that asks (if I can help it), so this is very plausible! I’ll adjust for these circumstances going forward.


Acceptable-Archer-97

I took a pictures from my second vantage point tonight, along with the star it displayed before (from the first vantage point) [See here.](https://imgur.com/a/LKMvkU8) It is not moving erratically. Maybe FAINTLY blinking at random?


Dr_Mibbles

Looks exactly like Jupiter in about where one would expect to find Jupiter right now.


Iceworks24

Yes. Been seeing them for years now. Some look like stars and “bobble”. Some look exactly like stars, then start moving. Some blink on and off. Some blink red, green, blue. Some of them move slowly and zig zag. Some of them take off from stationary at speeds I’ve never seen anything on earth move as fast. What it is, I don’t know, but whatever it is, it’s either Military or Alien.


InsidiousExpert

I thought about the possibility of it being a “concealed” surveillance drone that is stationary and supposed to look like a star/planet.


Iceworks24

I’ve thought that as well that it’s some type of surveillance tech. But the velocity I’ve seen some of them reach is definitely not within our known capabilities for anything flying.


Acceptable-Archer-97

I’ve been seeing the same kind of phenomenon for a couple months now. Exactly as you described. I live in central Virginia. Edit: I want to add that I’ve been noticing another strange phenomenon. To be fair, there could be a rational explanation for this one, but I just don’t know, and haven’t done any leg work. Like OP and many others, I use multiple apps when examining the night skies such as SkyView Lite, Flightradar24, and two compasses. *Two?* Yep. I began to notice inconsistent, large swings in the displayed direction on the compass app. I downloaded a second compass app and it does the same thing too. Both apps are within <10° of each other with their respective readings, but the direction displayed change and varies on different days. Super odd, but maybe explainable? It’s just something I noticed and would love to hear a rational explanation or bring awareness to it. I know there’s a lot going on with geomagnetic fields and what not (changing atmosphere, solar flares).


idahononono

You should download the infrasound app Redvox to listen for infrasound anomalies and one of the many apps that utilize your phone as a magnetometer. It would be interesting to know if any abnormalities in these fields exist. if you pick up magnetic changes they are usually relatively short range. Infrasound can be detected for incredible distance, but you can use amplitude to judge distance to some extent. It might not help with so many unknown values in your situation, but it’s evidence to gather. It’s also really good to journal the appearance, behavior, duration, and any other parameters you can document that might imply it’s a real physical object. Not trying to be pushy, these are just some side thoughts that I would strongly consider if I had an experience with a UAP. It should help you clarify if it’s an object that can be verified, or help you prove it is truly a UAP. Data is king in these situations, not many people have several chances to record it. Just out of curiosity, do these objects generate unusual fear, anxiety, or excitement when you view them?


Acceptable-Archer-97

Love it. Thanks for sharing all of that! Your head is clearly engaged in the Phenomenon topic. I’ve not experienced anything of those sorts with this *particular* object. And I’m all about any data one can get, so I’ll tackle the journal thing. Different story: Now back to the fear thing.. I was playing some Rocket League a couple of months ago and just before the midnight tournament would start (~2350 EST) I decided it best to let my dogs out as it had been a while. I remember my wife FaceTiming me from her job as I made my at through the house to head for the door. She was on break (Emergency Department Nurse, 3p-3a shift). We chatted very briefly and as we were hanging up I remember us laughing about something. I’m now outside behind my townhome and as I look up from my phone, about 50ft above me (60-70° angle up from my position), I watched what I could only describe as a bright, yet not blinding, morphing, plasma-like ball-figure literally disappearing into the nothingness. This happened over the course of one (1) second, as if I caught sight of this mid-disappearing. This was close enough that I could’ve thrown a rock at this thing, and miss. It scared the FUCK out of me(!!!) I yelled to the dogs to get inside and wasted no time heading back in. Once back inside I felt what could be discounted as paranoid for the night. I felt like I was invulnerable perhaps? Like I was being watched. Nothing else happened for the remainder of the night to my perception, and nothing like it since. My reaction felt genuine and natural for me. Not saying it was or wasn’t psychotronic though…


InsidiousExpert

Can you see something like that right now? It appears to me at approximately 90 degrees due East. Edit: Sorry, completely wrong direction. 210 degrees southwest. I have no idea why it was reading 90 East


Acceptable-Archer-97

I’m at the hospital with my one day old girl in my arms scrolling the feed, so I can’t check right now. Should be going home tomorrow and I’ll check. It occurs several times per week. It’s generally south-southeast, but very high up from the perspective I take on it. I’ve watched it appear from literally nothingness in the sky and make its way to the same spot almost all of the nights I see it. For maybe a month or more I thought it was just a planet, because it seemed to appear on the SkyView Lite app as one.. but then one evening I caught it DEFINITELY moving slowly into the same spot and it would stay.. I began to pay more attention after this, which is when I noticed it would completely disappear, then reappear.. checked with the app: nada. I then pondered the very same question in your headline. I’m certain this isn’t a planet or a star and it’s not hard to believe that a popular, free iPhone app wouldn’t be “in” on this somehow, per se, but I make no claims on this specifically. This specific aerial phenomenon on one of the first nights I began figuring this all out ended up being my wife’s first legitimate “UAP” encounter. For those caught up on all things UAP, this did not move in a similar fashion to the “orbs”, despite it appearing like a bright star. The evening my wife witnessed it (I asked her to come look; she loves this stuff /s) we used binoculars to get a close look and SHE noticed two faint, but very obvious smaller lights just off the corners of this light. I look and, no shit, there’s an extremely vague line connecting what would be a triangle shape between the now 3 lights. Again, one is like a star, and the other two are BARELY noticeable, but definitive. The dimensions of the TR-3B don’t line up with this triangle shape, but I’m not saying it is/isn’t. My interpretation is that it seemed like it was cloaking itself, despite seeing the outline (with binoculars). Anyways, yep. Happening in Fishersville, VA.


Allison1228

Jupiter presently forms a triangle with the two background stars Gamma Capricornii and Delta Capricornii: https://www.heavens-above.com/constellation.aspx?con=Cap


InsidiousExpert

Are those stars usually visible?


Acceptable-Archer-97

Yeah, no these much dimmer lights were in a much tighter formation. Your explanation is without a doubt rational. I’m not saying it’s not Jupiter, I’m saying I watched this object do an unexplainable maneuver, an “S” pattern, across the sky over a period of minutes to achieve its position and then it remained stationary. It then would fade in and out of sight in the clear night sky. This was an object that I was *certain* was Jupiter just a couple months back, per the SkyView Lite app. Something is off about this object and should warrant our attention is all. I recommend watching when Jupiter/the object in question comes into view in the evening time. That’s when I’ve experienced what I’m referring to as odd.


Allison1228

If you observed tiny lights immediately adjacent to the bright object, that might have been Jupiter's satellites, which can be seen with binoculars. They appear as tiny stars a short distance on either side of Jupiter, but always in a straight line with the center of the planet. Congratulations on the baby, by the way!


Acceptable-Archer-97

I did not know this! This could easily explain the dimmer lights. I’ll be observing with a more informed and skeptical analysis, thanks to everyone here. Thank you! ☺️


Doc302

Congrats on the little one, hope mom and baby are doing well.


Acceptable-Archer-97

I was able to make a trip outside. I’m not at home where I normally would watch this from, but there is a strikingly similar object/light in the sky 200° due South/SW from my current location (about 1 mile +/- from home). However, its activity isn’t anything of interest at this time (0021 EST).


ComeInStarCommand

Let’s... not go down that path. We wouldn’t wanna be pointing fingers at everything in the sky.


courtbubz

Probably just a satellite. They can look like stars due to the reflection of the sun and can be moved by government or agencies at any point to get the right frequencies or vantage point. Could be another life form too, who knows?


ForkMasterPlus

A bit ago I posted about a UFO I saw while with an astronomer friend out in the desert. I was looking up at the big dipper and one of the stars moved from still to instant ridiculous speed. It curved around, behind my view and settled to the left of me. So yes. Yes they can.


Marksgotacabin

Hey man I’m in Wall. I have night vision and will take a look. It’s been too. Cloudy the past week but I’ve been stargazing a lot lately. I’m looking for stuff. So far lots of satellites. It’s amazing what you can see with a night vision scope. Reach out to me and we can cooperate and figure it out.


InsidiousExpert

The direction according to my phones compass is approx. 90 degrees East. Edit: Sorry, 210 degrees southwest


Acceptable-Archer-97

Central VA here. Can confirm, 209° S/SW. SkyView Lite app is showing “Diphda - Star in Cetus Above Horizon”. It appears to be doing “nothing”, but after staring it’s moving West. Time is 0040. My comment on here just 20 minutes earlier, I was seeing 200° S/SW and SkyView Lite was showing I think “Ental - something about Tarus” when I viewed the same point of interest.


tijuanagolds

You guys know stars move in the sky right? And that they all move towards the west? The Earth's rotation gives the impression of them all moving in that direction.


Acceptable-Archer-97

Definitely.


DrestinBlack

Imagine if UFOs start disguising themselves as Starlink Satellites?


talaxia

I've def seen this before


Wyvernkeeper

If it's generally in the South it's almost certainly Jupiter.


DeadTom83

I had a couple of weird occurrences lately where it'll be completely cloudy and I can see no stars except for one which looks like it's under the clouds. It's happened a couple of times and seems very strange. To the point where I was thinking, "How the hell am I seeing this star right now?!" I could see clouds all around it and seemingly above it. Not light wispy clouds either, I'm talking extremely heavy cloud cover. It shouldn't have been visible. Even being someone who believes and has had major sightings, it weirded me out. It's a strange feeling because on average I'm open to contact, communicating, hell I'd even love to go see one of their cities but that whole hiding as a star thing, that's not cool if that is what is indeed happening.


buckleupduckies

That bright star is Jupiter. If you check it with an 8 inch telescope, you can even see the red spot on it.


dohertyc

I’ve seen this


Mean_Piccolo3429

YES


notliekthispls

You're eyes are deceiving you.


TirayShell

The problem they'll always have is looking like a star to somebody (somebody who isn't a stargazer or astronomer) but could easily be noticeably out of line to somebody even a few miles away, unless they're way up in the stratosphere, and in that case they would be very visible to a lot of people. I can only imagine that this thing only wants to be seen by someone in your nearby vicinity.


FundamentalEnt

Ok fuck it…I’ve been thinking the same damn thing. I’m a smoker and spend too much time outside late at night. I get up at 0600 for work and go to bed at 0200 give or take about 30 mins on each side. One night I swear there were two new bright ass stars. And while I watch the big and Little Dipper move across the sky each night with the season, these appear stationary. But they are just oddly bright things I have been assuming to be stars. It’s absolutely a speculative and biased anecdotal thing I’m talking about. Which is why I haven’t talked about it. BUT, now that you said something; I agree. I have seen some oddly bright stars. Tonight I’m getting out my binoculars finally. WML Edit: Oh and this ping pong video is perfect. I noticed them because of an almost red blue shift in this motion. I assumed that to be red and blue band light from some star.


butterfunky

If this happens again and you only have your iPhone, prop it up against something with camera angled toward the object and take a long exposure pic (if you have the ability). The iPhone 12 can take 3 and 10 second night photos and you could at least get a visual of the movement that way while still capturing the static surrounding stars.


InsidiousExpert

I only have a XSMAX iPhone unfortunately


ArcherGorgonite

Could they disguise themselves as planes and birds and clouds


InsidiousExpert

I know you are being a smartass, but I can guarantee you that if you could come stand next to me and look at this thing, you’d change your tune real quick.


ArcherGorgonite

I was actually being serious.


CachuHwch

Deleted… ping pong ball yeeees.


dead-mans-switch

I would camouflage myself as a winged unicorn with a rainbow shooting out my arse. Or perhaps an incredibly large dildo. See how many sighting reports you get.