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childish-yambino

Paramount, you’ve never seen me very upset.


PicquitoKeato

If they were still rotating directors every installment this wouldn’t have happened. We’d be on the Steven Soderbergh Mission Impossible and it would have finished filming over a long weekend.


ThaneKrios

Jeff Bridges voice: "Soderbergh shot Mission Impossible 7 in a weekend, with a box of iPhones"


zstrebeck

I think an M:I film would benefit from some good Out of Sight-like time jumping.


JDSollie

They went from tying the shortest gap between films (until 7 & 8, obv) to almost tying the longest.


trianglegooseparty

Fun fact: Tom Cruise will turn 62 years old less than a week after the release of MI:8.


shesfixing

Legit might cry over this, my favourite franchise and I'm just desperate for these films.


wred42

Is it me or is Paramount just adamant that they will not release major movies?


childish-yambino

At least they HAVE movies to release this year. *Jackass Forever*, *The Lost City*, *Secret Headquarters*, and *Babylon* are a hell of a lot better than their slate the past 2 years.


wred42

Yeah, but I also spent all summer seeing trailers for Jackass with an October release date only for it to drop four months back - and October turned out to be one of the better months for box office last year!


matan_vil

They have Sonic and Top Gun this year


wred42

If they actually release Top Gun this time


JaMan51

Since it wasn't in the list of new dates, either they forgot they are releasing, going to wait longer to see how the landscape evolves in the next few months, or are actually intending to release in May. Still time to disappoint.


wred42

I should've saved the Maverick soda cup the theater gave me in May 2021 to see if they'd count it as current whenever the movie actually releases


BoomBrain

[Link since the original one seems to have broken since posted, at least for me](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/mission-impossible-7-release-date-delayed-again-1235078900/) Also GODDAMNIT


denzel4684864

Fucks sake well I hope Top Gun Maverick is actually good in the mean time, can't believe its been 4 years since Tom Cruise's last film, what the fuck


almosthuman2021

It’s rare I’m actually excited about a 7th entree in any franchise. But seeing as fallout as the best in the series so far I have a feeling the next 2 will be worth the wait 😛


Spacetime_Inspector

I don't understand the thinking here. Spidey and Scream lived up to close to 100% of their pre-pandemic box office potential even in the middle of what's likely to be the last bad wave before the endemic phase. It's abundantly clear now that if you release the movies people want to see, they will go see them, and if you keep pushing them back and farting out your B-pictures, they won't. There's no mythical better time coming when the triple-vaccinated people currently categorically scared to go to the theater will be not scared. This move could just be pushing the release from the middle of the Sigma panic to the middle of the Omega panic for all we know. There's also no time coming when the Chinese regulators will suddenly become friendlier to Western movies. Treat those markets as lost forever. This is it. Put the movies out and let people make their choices.


JDSollie

I’m not convinced this is 100% COVID-related. Considering how Cruise and McQuarrie make these movies - making things up as they go, even trashing entire filmed sequences and going back for reshoots - could they have decided to rework it some more while editing 7 and prepping 8?


mellamollama1724

I've heard on and off the record that there have been some pandemic related challenges to some of the stunt/location work they want to do. Cruise is a rabid perfectionist and doesn't want to go the Red Notice route with it.


JDSollie

Funny you bring up Red Notice since the filmmakers wanted Cruise to show up at the end as a surprise villain for the sequel. Picturing him in that filmmaking environment is wild!


jez124

hearing the rumours that cruise could have been in that or might be in mcu movies is wild to me.Still think its kind of a shame he didnt switch to less action and more drama films. but I do like the Ethan hunt films.


[deleted]

Devil's advocate, but apparently Red Notice was gonna be really locations heavy *until* COVID hit. Who knows what'll happen with the sequels.


FondueDiligence

> Spidey and Scream lived up to close to 100% of their pre-pandemic box office potential even Doing well doesn't mean they matched what they would have done with no pandemic. It should be obvious that some people are still not comfortable going back to the theater yet. Do you think that none of those people would wanted to see Spider-Man or Scream? EDIT: I wrote this comment before even seeing this [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/blankies/comments/s954da/whats_your_comfort_level_in_theaters_lately/). This is a community that puts a huge emphasis on movies and the theatergoing experience and there are still plenty of people here who aren't comfortable in a theater. There is no question this has an impact.


lazierlinepainter

no way home is the eighth highest grossing movie of all time, having made a cool half a billion more than the last spider-man film. if we’re to assume this movie is underperforming because of the pandemic the only logical conclusion is that this movie should have been an avatar/force awakens/endgame level hit which is… not realistic that is to say, yes I do think it’s fair to assume that the money lost due to people who want to see spider-man but aren’t comfortable going out is a rounding error meanwhile scream opened to 33 million domestic, which, if we compare it to pre-pandemic January horror movies, is three times what the grudge did and twice what escape room did. it’s not great because this movie is stupid expensive for some reason, but by the metric of the genre and window it’s a smash which again is to say: people are clearly willing to go see movies they want to see


FondueDiligence

> if we’re to assume this movie is underperforming because of the pandemic the only logical conclusion is that this movie should have been an avatar/force awakens/endgame level hit which is… not realistic There is a big gap between Avatar/Endgame and everything else. NWH is currently at roughly 60% of their total. It wasn't going to pass them, but it could have certainly gotten closer. And it isn't like it is just another Spider-Man movie. This was effectively an Endgame style culmination of the three different iterations of Spider-Man who is, depending on how you measure it, the world's most popular superhero. I don't see why this movie couldn't have done $2b in normal times. >meanwhile scream opened to 33 million domestic, which, if we compare it to pre-pandemic January horror movies, is three times what the grudge did and twice what escape room did Are you really comparing the opening of a well known property like Scream to Escape Room? Why would the expectations for Scream be the same as some original low budget movie rather than something like the 2018 Halloween that opened to $76m? The Scream franchise might not be at the Halloween level, but it was certainly more popular than The Grudge.


lazierlinepainter

the original American grudge outgrossed every scream film, it’s actually a pretty fair comparison to make, given that they both opened in an open weekend competing with a smash hit Christmas blockbuster and again, your theory is that there is twice as much demand for spider-man now than there was summer of 2019, but the pandemic took four hundred million off its total? I’m aware that neither of us can do anything but speculate here but… come on edit: I said superhero movie instead of blockbuster originally, got my years twisted and thought the grudge opened in aquaman’s tail as opposed to star wars’


FondueDiligence

>the original American grudge outgrossed every scream film, it’s actually a pretty fair comparison to make, given that they both opened in an open weekend competing with a smash hit Christmas blockbuster https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Grudge#tab=summary https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Scream#tab=summary The average Scream movie pulls in $132m while the average The Grudge movie is at $102m. And that is even with multiple factors in The Grudge's favor. The new Scream is dragging down the average since it hasn't completed its run yet. These are not inflation adjusted numbers which would push Scream up even more. The box office average doesn't penalize The Grudge for dropping off a cliff so quickly that the 3rd one was straight to DVD. I don't think there is much of a question that Scream is the bigger franchise. >and again, your theory is that there is twice as much demand for spider-man now than there was summer of 2019, but the pandemic took four hundred million off its total? I’m aware that neither of us can do anything but speculate here but… come on As I said, NWH is not just another Spider-Man movie in the same way that Infinity War and Endgame are not just another Avengers movie. If Endgame can do twice what Age of Ultron did, I don't see why it is unreasonable for NWH to do twice what Far From Home did.


passing_rando

smash! a metric comes through the window!


BoomBrain

I wonder if it’s because this franchise skews a little older in terms of median audience age, certainly compared with Spidey/Scream. Whether older audiences are lost forever remains to be seen.


DrColossusOfRhodes

For a lot of us, there actually is a time. For instance, when they open up the vaccine to children under 5, a lot of adults will likely feel a lot more comfortable doing things in big open public spaces.


thanatos388

> even in the middle of what's likely to be the last bad wave before the endemic phase. How many times does this have to end up not being true? The CDC has basically given up on the virus and is flat out saying basically everyone is gonna get it which means its gonna continue mutating and its gonna ravage the poor for 50 years. Uhhh, to bring things slightly back on topic yea sucks the MIs are delayed.


j11430

Not surprising but also extremely disappointing


[deleted]

Real talk: is Paramount in a MGM/UA situation where they’re constantly delaying movies because they can’t actually afford to distribute them? I’m starting to worry that’s the case.


decline_inline

PAIN. AGAIN.


Middle_Egg_9558

I’m so disappointed. It’s my favorite current franchise. My only guess for the delay is that they worry the press tour for 7 will interrupt production on 8. But July 2023 is absolutely stacked and there is gonna be a big IMAX pile-up.


deadmanspop

Really starting to dislike this covid thing


AffordableBreakfast

Seems like such a long push for M:I 7 specifically. That thing has got to be well into the editing process by now.


MFDoooooooooooom

Shout out to the Light the Fuse podcast. I think Blankies would love the deep dives they've done over the entire series.


PicnicBasketSam

remember when Rogue Nation got moved *forward* six months?? those were the days


damianoaks14

Paramount really is just a garbage dump of a studio at this point


mcbeeepo

Jokes on you Paramount, this only makes my excitement grow and grow


Rollout25

Dam it! I literally just watched rogue nation and fallout last night! I was so pumped we were getting one this year


astonishedwolf

First Morbius, now THIS!


rosscott

Watch them film 9 and 10 and just be 2 ahead for the next bunch of years.


hedges747

I’m not surprised, but I am devastated.


procvar

At this point might as well call the Movies: Impossible


inkylewetrust1

You give Christopher McQuarrie a week and he's good. A month he's great. You give him almost a year in the editing room? He's unbeatable.


Mookie_Freeman

I have a theory on why they keep pushing this. I think since that audio of Tom Cruise freaking out over the crew and how they treat covid, the studio and Cruise feels like they're in a bind and if they release the movie during the pandemic Cruise will look like a hypocrite.


useranme1

anyone checked in on those crew members cruise went ballistic on last year? if this has anything to do with those covid delays, i worry for their livelihoods


JDSollie

They wrapped filming on 7 in September (rant is from December ‘20), which is why this is a little confusing.


useranme1

well someone is going to have to answer for the crimes of delaying MI7 and 8


zstrebeck

Impossible Beasts and Where to Film Them: the Crimes of Cruise