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ZiggyComm

Uh... Is that THE FAMOUS CIGAR in his mouth?


DrunkenDude123

What is that?


ConnecticutConvert

He stuck a cigar up Monica.


TheInternetCat

Anybody who’s ridden on that plane should describe their experience or face a presumption of sketchiness.


TheDuckFarm

>presumption of sketchiness. \- LOL Yes.


PrecisePigeon

Shhh! Donald Trump was on it too!


Quaker16

Elon Musk was introduced to Epstein by Mark Zuckerberg That fact doesn’t get discussed here much too


Lesbian_Wexner

link supporting that claim?


Mailstoop

Please correct me if im wrong Trump -1 Clinton-26


TheSupremeHobo

Is there an acceptable number of times to be on a pedo plane?


SexualDeth5quad

1 is deniable. 26 is definitely not acceptable. Come on, man!


DaKind28

I’ll just leave this here https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf


lactose_intoleroni

IIRC he was taking it from one destination to another in the US. He never actually went to the island.


DaKind28

You don’t have to land on the island to be a pedo. Trump was accused of raping a underage girl on the plane. https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf


lactose_intoleroni

Ah yes, factcheck.org. A true bastion of journalistic integrity and unbiased views.


TheInternetCat

Dude, that link takes you directly to the filed jury demand in which the allegations are made. There’s zero filter. You tried to be sarcastic but botched it completely.


Nlawrence55

Are you trying to defend Trump by saying it's OK because he only did it once? Because if so, you are a piece of shit my guy.


FOOLISHPROPHETX

No they bring it up to show how ridiculous you folks sound screaming TrUmP everytime Bill Clinton is mentioned. Then you all casually leave out the tiny bit of the story where Trump banned Epstein from Mara Lago. For whatever reason.


Mailstoop

Thank you!


MakoRuu

Fucking Trump shills will justify being on a pedo plane because someone else did it more.


Mailstoop

Not at all…. So was steven pinker according to his recent podcast on rogan. 1 ride there could be an excuse …..26, no excuses.


_manicpixie

One ride could also indicate that they went, they saw, and didn’t want any part in it.


Mailstoop

He didnt fly to the island either…. Not even trying to defend the guy but can we look at facts


DaKind28

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf


fireskinblue

lmfao wait till you see all the gymnastics people do to justify this


SexualDeth5quad

If you read what's been happening in Maxwell's trial you can already see how they're framing it. They're already pushing the narrative that Epstein hid everything from Maxwell and all the famous dignitaries and celebs. Like none of them knew about it. Even though there are photos of Andrew and Clinton with some of these hookers. It's fucking pathetic. They are guilty AF.


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wow you weren't kidding, i could set my watch to those people. i understood people's hate for President Clinton and Secretary Clinton that motivated them to vote for Trump, but i dont understand people who worship Trump as the end-all for "ending corruption". woof! i really miss the days of conspiracy where we could all rally behind inspiring people like Aaron Swartz and Edward Snowden


thebestdavid33

when it was posts about the annunaki and the illuminati


thebestdavid33

this sub before 2016 was a chill place


SexualDeth5quad

This sub before 2016: Aliens killed bigfoot because he saw who did 9/11. The Earth is flat. Birds aren't real.


MustardTiger1337

Well bring back thedonald and this whole place gets cleaned up.


fireskinblue

Yeah they’ll bend over for trump so fast. Everyone I know, when Coumo was accused of sexual assault they were like “well fuck him he needs to go” But nope the trumpies just love getting their voids filled


AmericanQue

Ghislaine and Epstein were both arrested while Trump was in office. Trump's Executive Orders on child/human trafficking is a good tell as well that he is not involved with the cabal. You think all of lamestream media and pedowood hate Trump because he's one of them? Let's use some critical thinking here. People think only movies have ppl working from the inside. Also, he never flew to the island. He hitched a ride to NY.


DJ_LMD

He wished her well. He’s known Epstein for decades.


AmericanQue

A lot of ppl have known Trump for decades. Trump also turned Epstein in to the authorities. Sure, I would wish her well as well, she knows a lot. Wouldn't want anything to happen to her. For now at least.


DJ_LMD

They partied together. Trump used to also walk in on underage girls. Said he’d date his own daughter. Is named on a rape case of a 13 year old along side Epstein. Epstein recruited girls at trumps resort. Trump only kicked him out after a real estate deal went sour. Try some facts.


AmericanQue

The media is telling you the truth about Trump but lying to us about the vaxx and the pandemic? Idk. If you say so.


DJ_LMD

What? Does your Que stand for Q?


AmericanQue

It's cool man, you can parrot mainstream media, I get it. Nothing new. All here say and what came of that rape allegation? The girl lied. That's what came of it. Thanks for playing.


DJ_LMD

The girl didn’t lie, she was getting death threats and dropped the case. If you were a true conspiracy wonderer you’d be interested in trumps dealings with Epstein and not defend the pedo.


AmericanQue

And who said she received death threats? Did rachel maddow tell you this?


AmericanQue

You should take a look at Trump's EO's about child/human trafficking rather than just echoing lamestream media bud.


AmericanQue

You probably thought Epsteins island was just conspiracy a couple yrs ago bud. It's ok.


Wolverine_Legitimate

He didn’t fly to the island though, only from the west coast to the east coast. Edit: Florida to New Jersey


TopGaurd

He still was on it


Bastardsblanket

Everybody's obsessed with Bill Clinton or trump flying on the pedo plane but I'd like to know what all the random celebrities were doing riding around with child sex traffickers.


SexualDeth5quad

That's how they make sure nothing ever gets done and nothing ever changes. Red team - Blue team. Bad cop - Good cop.


TheRealUlfric

Yes. One time in 1997 for a single trip within mainland America. As compared to Bill Clinton, who is marked an exceptional number of times on the pilot's manifest, visiting primarily Asian countries with a marked sex trafficking presence.


ZiggyComm

Where are the photos of Trump with the girls like the blackmail photos Ghislaine has on prince Andrew with the accuser? Please excuse me while I do a crazy somersault...


PrecisePigeon

So you promise that Trump never raped any underage girls?


K9Marz919

IDGAF how many times or where Trump went, he needs to explain himself. Same with anyone else. Imagine trying to minimize your lord god Trump hanging out with sex traffickers.


simplegoatherder

I mean trump also has his own planes no? Regardless of if he flew or not he was friends with epstein and hung out with him.


SexualDeth5quad

Make Trump, Andrew, AND Clinton testify in the Maxwell trial. Nobody here is saying not to.


TheInternetCat

He did fly on the plane, and epstein, maxwell, and some unknown young female flew on trump's plane as well.


lactose_intoleroni

Source?


Thy_Gooch

And then was the only celebrity to testify against him. >[Brad Edwards] had served subpoenas on many connected people in 2009, and that Trump was “the only person who picked up the phone and said, **‘Let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want.’”** Edwards added that **Trump “was very helpful, in the information that he gave,”** calling it “good information that checked out and that helped us.” And, he said, Trump “gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever.” https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton


TheInternetCat

In 2010, [Epstein plead the Fifth](https://www.vice.com/en/article/j59vm8/the-salacious-ammo-even-donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton) when asked by a lawyer representing one of Epstein's victims about his relationship with Trump: Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump? A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir? Q. Have you socialized with him? A. Yes, sir. Q. Yes? A. Yes, sir. Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18? A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.


cyberXrev

i love how under every such post theres people crying about orange man being on the plane while just ignoring ol' bill's TWENTY FUCKING SIX flights ​ you lot are laughable not saying trump isnt just as bad, he probably is. it's all a big dupe game imo, they're all in on it, probably blackmailed to do it aswell


HeavyLoungin

He has already explained himself. Epstein wasn’t on it. He literally needed a ride and the pilot flew him to NYC.


BagOfFlies

Bullshit. Flight logs say otherwise. >The other named passengers, besides Trump and the Dubins, are **Jeffrey Epstein** ("JE"), **Ghislaine Maxwell** ("GM"), Mark Epstein, and someone identified as "Didler" or "Didier." The date of flight is listed as January 5, 1997. The log lists the model of the plane as a Gulfstream II, under the tail number N908JE. https://www.insider.com/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs-unsealed-2019-8


TheInternetCat

Yeah, and Clinton has “explained” his time as well. What I haven’t heard is Trump’s explanation for taking Epstein, Maxwell, and some dolled up young female of indeterminate age on his plane.


Thy_Gooch

Clinton went on over 30 trips to Africa with Epstein. Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after he was caught groping a girl.


vilent_sibrate

He still hasn’t explained his rape case. Edit: the one with the underage girls


PrecisePigeon

I don't like Trump. I'm trying to get this sub to acknowledge that he's a piece of shit. Unfortunately, like you say, everybody here thinks he's the second coming of Christ.


asianperswayze

> Unfortunately, like you say, everybody here thinks he's the second coming of Christ. Not everybody. This seems to be the only place on reddit where both perspectives are allowed to be discussed. Literally people in this specific thread have conflicting views on Trump.


PrecisePigeon

Lol. Try searching for Epstein Trump in r/conspriacy. Every article is downvoted to hell. Now search Epstein Clinton. Every article has 500+ upvotes. I'd like to believe people here are openminded, but the majority just come here to have their own viewpoint validated.


TheInternetCat

By "both perspectives," do you mean that (1) being on epstein's plane is proof of guilt and (2) being on epstein's plane is unimportant proof of nothing depending on who we're talking about?


SexualDeth5quad

>Unfortunately, like you say, everybody here thinks he's the second coming of Christ. This is a symptom of your TDS. MOST people here do not think that. We're not going to tolerate DNC bootlickers coming here pulling their "What about Trump?" shit to silence all the blatant evidence of Clinton and Andrew's illegal perverted rich man's debauchery. They're all a bunch of filthy rich SCUMBAGS.


eyefish4fun

I don't like Trump. He's rude and can be crass. That said he's accomplish some of the things he campaigned on. Unlike the ones before or since.


HeavyLoungin

No one said he was the second coming of Christ. Just that he wasn’t using the plane to bang underage hookers.


PrecisePigeon

How do you know that?


latticeguy

why is everything black or white? either he's a pile of steaming shit or he's the god king with you. how about most people think that much of the hate on Trump is manufactured, that Trump probably is up to some shady shit, that the are high rollers and then the rest of us and defending someone from false allegations doesn't mean you want to suck their dick.


piles_of_SSRIs

Until Trump denounces the vaxx he should be having 0% support.


vilent_sibrate

Why would he do that? He literally takes credit for it every chance he gets. Operation Warp Speed remember.


TheRealUlfric

https://www.howellwoltz.com/uploads/1/7/0/4/17044718/flight_logs.pdf Have a go at it.


PrecisePigeon

Those are flight logs. I asked whether Don raped little girls. Do they record such events on flight logs?


TheRealUlfric

Do they would indeed.


Submissive_Breedable

Why did Trump settle a child rape case against him outside of court? If he were innocent why didn’t he fight to protect his reputation?


SVNDB0X

Link it, u wont.


vilent_sibrate

[Trump Epstein Child Rape Case documents ](https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf)


AyatollahChobani

Codefendant with Jeff Epstein, too.


SaigaqofAralSea

That's a retarted response of yours. How could he or you confirm or deny that?


SexualDeth5quad

>So you promise that Trump never raped any underage girls? Does whether Trump raped any underage girls or not change the facts about Clinton?


AyatollahChobani

And he lived just down the road from his close friend Jeff Epstein and they were seen together at all four homes frequently. Stop defending pedos.


TopGaurd

Okay but he was still on it lol


TheRealUlfric

Yes. One time in 1997 for a single trip within mainland America. As compared to Bill Clinton, who is marked an exceptional number of times on the pilot's manifest, visiting primarily Asian countries with a marked sex trafficking presence.


TopGaurd

Why does it matter how many times ? He was still on it


SexualDeth5quad

Bill Clinton was still on it 26 times, but yet you're still whining about Trump. Let's start with Clinton, the easy one to prove.


DivisionalMedia

Incorrect. Trump was never on the LE. He took a single chartered plane that Epstein owned.


BJAkers817

he was on a PLANE????! How dare he?


0pium666

not any plane, he was on the lolita express


SexualDeth5quad

Clinton and Andrew both photographed with Epstein's hookers, kind of hard to dispute that evidence, yet none of Trump exist.


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vilent_sibrate

TDS is really ignoring Trump allegedly raping children because you get something out of carrying water for a billionaire; possibly the delusion that one day you too could be a billionaire.


TheInternetCat

Are you suggesting only those shown on the logs to have flown to the island should be scrutinized? If so, Clinton's in the clear with you. [What's also interesting is that Epstein flew on Trump's plane as well](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/remembering-the-time-jeffrey-epstein-rode-on-trumps-plane.html) (Trump has his own plane, so he did not need to hitch a ride as often as others). As described by a reporter apparently on the plane as well: >According to Corcoran, Epstein and Maxwell arrived with another passenger not mentioned in the piece. “They did board with a young woman of indeterminate age. I wouldn’t be able to tell if she was 15 or 20. She was quite dressed up and quite made up, so it was hard to tell,” Corcoran said over the weekend. “At the time I didn’t even know who Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were, so when they got on I thought, Maybe they’re married and that’s their niece.”


latticeguy

it was from florida to new york. they both had places in florida and in new york, they were both heading in the same direction, they took the same plane.


DJ_LMD

They also raped the same 13 year old


latticeguy

prove it.


DJ_LMD

Here you go https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf


06210311251521

You mean the one who claimed that Donald threw money at her & told her to get an abortion? [The one that won't show her face, give an interview or at least speak to reporters? With a single representative, who is known for stirring up political drama?](https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-accuser-raped-13/) Hell, even [PolitiFact agrees that the lawsuit is total BS](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/03/facebook-posts/no-proof-donald-trump-raped-13-year-old-girl-1994/), and [PolitiFact is very much biased](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/may/26/blog-posting/biden-beating-biden-social-media-users-misquote-bi/).


Aushwango

So get them all IF TRUE? Why do pedos focus so much on Trump when the current president is in hundreds of videos groping kids? Ohhh because it's a pathetic attempt at distraction...


Apart_Number_2792

Bill looks like he's right at home on the "Lolita Express".


Moobob66

Someone identify the other 2 guys!


beardedsid

Holy crap is that carlton


_Diggus_Bickus_

Maybe justin Trudeau front left?


kalipede

Bruh did you just actually mention black face Trudeau? Lmao


AyatollahChobani

Excellent


crags20

lol


604pleb

I think one is Chris tucker, the other is most likely Kevin spacey, these photos are from the Africa trip


Key-Difficulty2304

Did you zoom in? What part of that guy looks like Chris Tucker other than being black?


Cygs

So you're saying it's will smith?


ketaking1976

Probably chief supreme court justice


Browhytfamihere

Black guy might be Denzel Washington.


[deleted]

That ain't fucking Denzel lmao.


KerryBlackcurrant

*Sees black guy* *Yo thats Denzel.*


Flaky_Blackberry9419

Clearly it's Snoop Dogg.


FERAL_MEANS

CLINTON looks more like Denzel than that dude does 🤦‍♂️


HanSolosBoots

> Black guy might be Denzel Washington. bro...


vengedrowkindaop

Bruh come on hahahaha


1736484

I think it’s Jackie Chan


Softcorps_dn

Hello, year old account with absolutely no activity until 5 hours ago.


Galahad908

Wtf I just checked god damn


Fendersocialclub

*“Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but sometimes it’s a big brown DICK…”* George Carlin


UncleCoyote

Trump, Clinton, Jesus, Hitler, the Pope or your cousin fucking Bobby. Don't care what your views politically are, or anything like that - if they're guilty, lock them the fuck up. There are no sides in this, no teams. Just bad rich people doing bad rich people things. Shouldn't be a "What about HIM" issue or "He flew X times, and my guy only flew Y". If they're guilty, they should all pay.


Rcrecc

But not our lord savior Trump! He would never do such a thing /s


FlyOnEpsteinsWall

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Once is a mistake. 26 times is a pattern.


not-the-fake-DG

For someone who hasn’t spoken on the issue and has distanced as if had very little to do with JE, he has a hell of a lot of photos in and around his company. Most striking thing in the image is how comfortable he looks in the picture as if it’s a regular occurrence to be there


Mike00726

and Warren Moon? That fucker.


Nicks_WRX

When does he get added to the trial


HanSolosBoots

why would he? literally its just a pic of him on a plane. not enough to do anything. at the very most would be circumstantial


Nicks_WRX

You don’t think it warrants investigation? This wasn’t his only tie with these people, they were long time friends. Even if he didn’t partake in sexual activity with minors (huge if), he’s still complicit.. there’s no way he didn’t know what Jepstein was all about behind the scenes...


SeparatePicture

It definitely warrants investigation. I think they were just implying that a photograph alone isn't legal evidence of wrongdoing, and probably won't make any charges stick.


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SeparatePicture

"...literally its just a pic of him on a plane. not enough to do anything. at the very most would be circumstantial... This is what I was talking about. That's exactly what was implied.


latticeguy

>literally its just a pic of him on a plane. not enough to do anything. at the very most would be circumstantial you're right, they didn't imply anything. he explicitly said so.


SockMaximum

I would bet both my balls that Bill clinton regularly has sex with minors.


Matthmaroo

He’s a pretty big fuck up , so evidence should exist Not a blog , not and extremely fuzzy photo


ZonaLite

And gave them life threatening STDs


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Other_Dragonfruit_71

It won’t be investigated, too powerful


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Nicks_WRX

Oh absolutely, careful though.. you’ll farm downvotes for saying that around here..


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AyatollahChobani

This sub has a lot of dumb and/or crazy people, and that's who Trump targets... Coincidentally, that is who foreign agents target, too.


gamerholic

> This isn’t a trump sub and it isn’t a conservative sub. tbf these are the ppl that are more prone to conspiracy theories.. it goes hand in hand; same reason why Qnon is a phenomenon of the right wing.


CarbonatedEnema

How about the picture of him in a dress and heels found in epstein's NYC manor lmfao


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CarbonatedEnema

Not to have him testify or be questioned. Zero accountability for anything whatsoever in these cases. Literally the biggest ball drop the fbi has ever publicly had, maybe had overall, but that's most likely intentional. Imagine full confession was needed to prosecute or even question any common criminal. Doesn't make any sense, all of them need to be brought to trial


TheInternetCat

Nah, even if he admitted to walking in on naked underage pageant contestants nobody would do anything.


YourFunnyUncle

lmao you mean a painting? better investigate the "picture" of bush knocking down the towers too. no one's really defending clinton, why not stick to real stuff.


CarbonatedEnema

So it's irrelevant aside from the known fact that the two were very close friends and our former president often visited the child sex trafficking powerhouse?


YourFunnyUncle

having a painting of something is a bit different than a photograph.


lastjohnnyboy

Holy cow, does that guy really not understand the difference between those two things or are they just trolling?


YourFunnyUncle

doubt it. what's the point in trolling along with the hivemind.


SuperZapper_Recharge

That isn't how trials work. Bill could be called as a witness.... (spoiler alert: He won't be) but if you want charges, that is its own trial. The bottom line with Bill... It would be an order of magnitude more difficult to charge him and try him then .... whatever her name is on trial right now. Hell, I would argue that it would be harder to bring charges against Bill then Trump. Wake me up when Trump is being brought up with anything.


bunkermonster

Actually Virgin-ia Gi.uff.r3 who was an Epstein victim stated she was aware of two instances of Bi.ll being with underage women. Sorry I have to alter words my post, literally if you post certain keywords against democrats on reddit, it will shadow delete your post instantly like if you type B.-id3.n is a.n 1di-ot it will instantly remove it, and it has happened with posts where I mentioned Virg.in-a Giu.ffr3 before with the C1int0.ns. It's completely deceptive, as you think you posted it, it shows for you as if it's posted but reveddit will show it was instantly removed due to unknown activity and it will not show in incognito.


SuperZapper_Recharge

My point went over your head. Entirely over your head. The statement I was responding to was the 'idea' that Bill would be added to this trial. That is just dumb. But, since this is /r/conspiracy - I was speculating that charging Bill Clinton is harder to do then - the-woman-whose-name-I-am-too-lazy-to-look-up . On a personal level, I think it would be harder to bring charges against Bill then Trump - and no one is having luck dragging Tump into court.


KD650-916

BIG PIMPIN SPENDING G’s You know I thug 'em, fuck 'em, love 'em, leave 'em 'Cause I don't fuckin' need 'em Take 'em out the hood, keep 'em lookin' good But I don't fuckin' feed 'em


Konarose5

they were children plz


nelbar

Somehow there are a ton of different photos of people in the lolita express or even on the island.. but nearly never with a too young girl/boy and never with explizite imagery.


kenb667

I actually don't believe there is a huge elite child sex ring at all. Epstein was a pervert who had money and influence to peddle. People looked the other way on his public behaviors because they were probably more "this dude is a little creepy" than criminal. I guarantee he found a few other people who joined in his pedo acts but let's face who we are at as a society. Strip clubs, Hooters, the use of female employees as "distractions" at casinos, etc. As a society we accept this stuff all the time. If you went to Epstein's party and all the servers appeared to be hot 20 year olds you could leave thinking the dude is a pervy but not child trafficker. Unfortunately, I doubt many people are going to go to prison for this but I hope anyone who was involved in trafficking or pedo crap goes to jail and gets raped daily. But I have seen it in my own life when a man got arrested in my small town for molesting young boys. The guy was involved in all sort of organizations. He generally liked but there had been some rumors at one point that got hushed to the point that there were huge splits among friends when came out the some people were not letting kids to his house (he had kids) but never told other parents why. In my opinion there is no reason to believe that anyone who was ever involved in an Epstein fundraising event is part of a elite child sex ring. Sadly, our society accepts the sexualzation of you women to the extent that pedos can be looked at as just creepy and that even people who would never go to a strip club will still spend their money in a Vegas casino with women dancing on tables because that's just the way it is


natethedawg

I can see where you’re coming from, and you very well may correct. The idea of an elite pedophile ring is hardly new however, and the FBI’s declassified files on The Finders Cult raise a lot of questions about the involvement of the intelligence community and pedophile rings. https://finderscult.wordpress.com/


kenb667

I don't doubt there are horrible people in all walks of life and fucked up cults. Let me rephrase that, these people definitely exist. I know a little about the Finders and read the link you sent. A fringe cult group with possibly some connection to the CIA and a worldwide sex cult that involves every famous person(especially one's that that many people who post here disagree with politically) are 2 different things. The thought this could involve so many people like it's portrayed without it getting out is absurd. Or the idea that once you become a celebrity you become a pedo.....Epstein's wealth, power and maybe even a connection he had with someone in power got him that sweet deal the 1st time, no doubt. There is definitely something fishy going on there. I don't doubt that but all this Lady Gaga's cousins friend brother worked at a resort next door to Epstein's and he once gave Epstein a towel in the sauna which was the same towel Marlon Brando dried his legs with in 1992, boom pedo ring shit doesn't real help anything, only clouds the air more and surely doesn't help the victims. Sorry about the extended rant


rimeswithburple

The thread that seems to run through these things is intelligence agencies. I don't know if they start these things, but it seems that if they become aware of them, instead of informing law enforcement, they use them as honeypots to gather intel they can use as extortion on the pedos. Maybe we need to trim down the size and scope of these organizations.


fskoti

I love it when people say "There's no way they'd do X without someone speaking out!" and then when someone speaks out, the same people say "Well that's ridiculous!"


SockMaximum

I think you fail to understand how fundamental pedophilia and misogyny is to the practices of social elites. It goes back to prehistorical times. The ancient Greeks practiced it. Aristotle and Plato give hints of themselves practicing it - though the former thought incest was wrong, the latter seemed less constrained by the idea of it. Pedophilia is ancient and so is misogyny. They occur together because they represent the same thing: the exploitation of the weak and vulnerable. It happens, still happens, and yes, you'd be supremely naive and under-informed to not realize elites engage in this behavior all of the time. It may be hard to understand if a) you aren't a narcissist, or b) a sociopath or c) have trouble imagining the sexual excitement a person can get from the taboo, but any reader of Nabakov's Lolita can probably imagine how enticing a 13-14 or even younger girl can be to a powerful man. In Tibetan Buddhism, for instance, the most 'ripe' partners for sexual tantric practices are between the ages of 8 and 12. 13-16 is the next best. 17-22 is what you'd settle for if you can't acquire a nubile girl, whereas anything after that is considered defiling to the practitioner of tantra. So the truth is, most people are just simply ignorant of the world we've come from - what traditional belief systems inculcated, and what todays social elites still indeed practice. Women - of course, and feminism, is a big reason for the change in perspective upon these issues. But the upper-classes don't change very easily; and they certainly wish to keep their darkest practices a secret, because, of course, everyone else simply wont understand it.


BJAkers817

killed it with this


MarcusAurelius78

> Sadly, our society accepts the sexualzation of you women Dude please the drop the white knight “A wOmAn iS aLwAyS tHe vIcTiM” narrative. We’ve had social media for over a decade now and it’s pretty obvious to anyone with a brain and even the slightest hint of psychology knowledge that A LOT of women enjoy sexualizing themselves freely with no one forcing them to. I mean think about Instagram for example - many women there are openly posting basically almost fully nude pics in exchange for just likes. Not even money (and yes there are many of those too) but just for likes and fame. These aren’t victims of “media sexualization” these are willing participants. If there is any positive here it’s that there’s also plenty of attractive women who don’t seek this validation out despite easily being able to get it. Those are the women I would encourage dudes to settle down with.


kenb667

I didn't say that women are always the victim. I said that our society is so normalized to using women's sexuality that what should probably be a red flag doesn't even phase most Americans.


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The guy who killed himself they claim 😝


lifegotme

It's crazy to me how my dad always knew about this stuff, even though he never had internet in his home.


vegetableTelevision

With another special cigar


Enough_Region_7641

He fell for the honey trap,what secrets was he forced to give up?


TheBluegrassBaron92

look at this FUCKING PIG


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hearse223

Abe Lincoln is actually


DigBick616

Wonder if that was the cigar he slipped inside Monica.


Vast_Phone_

SS: Bill Clinton inside Jeffrey Epstein's private jet 'Lolita Express'. Who is on that seat next to him?


F3Rocket95

According to this [article](https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-traveled-with-bill-clinton-kevin-spacey-2019-7) I would assume the other two are Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker. > Epstein's private plane took President Bill Clinton, actor Kevin Spacey, and comedian Chris Tucker to Africa to tour HIV/AIDS project sites, New York Magazine said in 2002, citing Page Six.


Able_Intention

Don't forget Trump also flew on the Lolita Express. And partied with him at Mar-a-lago with a bunch of women. Both sides of the aisle are tied up in this


Seekay5

Hilarious that you people think Epstein had 1 plane.


mariellenalexa

I think anyone with money that's involved in lobbying is probably guilty.


Able_Intention

Most likely


rowingnut

Trump flew on the plane once back in 1997 when he was looking for investors for his projects. Clinton flew to the Island multiple times. Epstein was suicided in prison.


Able_Intention

He flew *and* partied with him at his hotel. A party filled with young women. Where Trump joked about Epstein's preference for younger women. But yeah. Nothing suspicious there at all. Especially since Trump has over twenty sexual assault accusers.


SilverSorceress

Was this picture taken with a potato?! It has about four pixels and I can barely make out a famous former US president.


zodiac200213

You know, Camera's weren't always digital and lighting was always a big issue if you had a shitty handheld film camera.


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Only reason they haven't charged Bill yet is because he's a former president protected by secret service


AyatollahChobani

Same reason they haven't charged Trump. It's a big club and you ain't in it.


Old-dirty-Crypto

Who's the African American next to him


Kimbellinie

Homeboy Trump also made a few trips on it y’all…. I feel like if Clinton is guilty so is TRUMP but nobody wants to discuss it for some reason


vcasta2020

Trump was just hitching a ride to Mara Lago.


flowjiffy

Clinton, Trump...Epstein's connections ran deep. Anyone know of any connection with Biden, because I wouldn't be surprised.


ketaking1976

According to his sworn testimony, he was just there to do a 'little bird watching'. Nothing sinister going on...oh wait.


bhgrove

Photo courtesy of Donald Trump.