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Am I an asshole for shutting down people who argue with my theories if I have a higher IQ than them?

Am I an asshole for shutting down people who argue with my theories if I have a higher IQ than them?

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becky1020

Yes you should change your behavior and yes you sound like a total asshole. just in this post, you are coming off as your better than everybody else


cityboy2

I wouldn’t say I’m better than everyone is, just that my mental capacity certainly is. Not to be a contrarian, but I certainly beg to differ on the viewpoint that all humans are the same and nobody is tangibly better than someone else.


becky1020

I get that and I agree. I was better than everyone on my high school basketball team. did they know it? yes, because of how we played. did I sit there and tell them I was better than them and that they sucked? no, definitely didnt do that. but thats how your coming off.


cityboy2

Yes, but what if they challenge you saying that they are more qualified in the game of basketball than you? That is exactly my situation right now.


shattenjager88

Then they are either right, in which case you should back down, or they are wrong, in which case they are to be pitied and ignored. Either way, trying to engage in an argument of who's smarter isn't very smart. Sounds like the problem isn't your intelligence, but your pride in your intelligence? That is, you know you are smarter than this guy, which is not in question, but you are uncomfortable with him asserting you are not. In which case - you'd probably need to work on not being so emotionally dependent on what others opinions? (Just a thought.)


_deathblow_

Nobody said everyone is the same. And it’s a poor use the word “better” when comparing people when what you’re really talking about is what you refer to as “mental capacity.”


rootytooty83

You are not better than someone else, regardless of IQ. Everyone has their individual strengths- this is something you learn as a child. You might have a psychologically flawed number that places your IQ above someone else but that is where the status ends. You are embarrassing.


pyjamatoast

If your IQ is that high, you would know that a) there are significant limitations to standardized IQ tests, and b) most people are not given IQ tests in there lifetime so there's absolutely no way you could know how someone scored on it. When/where were you given your IQ test?


cityboy2

A) IQ tests have evolved significantly from the pseudoscience they were back when they are introduced in the early 20th century. B) Most people have taken a standardized test of some sort before. For example, the SAT is actually quite reflective of mental aptitude. The IQ test isn’t the only test to measure intelligence.


pyjamatoast

You didn't answer my question. When/where did you take your IQ test?


cityboy2

I will not reveal personal details about myself, but I’ve taken one biannually for as long as I can recall.


pyjamatoast

Yeah I don't mean like, the exact address. But are you taking these tests at a psychologists office? At school? For mental health purposes? Which test are you given, the WISC? Personally I've never heard of someone being given a formal, standardized IQ test twice a year. IQ is static over time and doesn't need to be tested that often. It sounds like you are not being given an IQ test.


wt_anonymous

The SAT isn't reflective of your intelligence. It's at best a measure of your test taking skills and what you learned in school. Many colleges don't require a SAT score for admission anymore.


cityboy2

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/12/04/why-should-sats-matter/the-sat-is-a-good-intelligence-test


notextinctyet

Whoever told you you have a "high IQ" did you a lifelong disservice. Change your behavior. And get rid of the idea of IQ in your head as much as you can. It will only hurt you and others.


cityboy2

It hasn’t hurt me in any particular way, only inspired me to receive more enlightenment through learning and gaining knowledge. Thank you for your concern though.


Datathrash

Yeah, dude. You sound like an asshat.


cityboy2

I beg to differ? Why do you think that? In what way? I would say that the people calling me an asshole are the real asshats. But please explain your reasoning.


Datathrash

You have a massive superiority complex about being good at puzzles. If you want to avoid being called an asshole then learn some socialization skills. If you're not worried about being called an asshole then why did you post this? You're not going to get the validation you seem to want from anyone.


moxac777

>I think that me having a higher IQ gives me a better capacity to think abstractly and tackle complex concepts in a 4-dimensional view. I really do hope that this is a shitpost and you're being ironic. That quote right there already gives me cringey know-it-all vibes. I mean "4-dimensional view"? Come on man you sound like a 4chan meme


cityboy2

Any other adjectives, nouns, or verbs I should replace it with then? I could use more complex language but I don’t want to sound like an asshat.


moxac777

I'd be more concerned with fixing that attitude first than expanding your vocab


wt_anonymous

It's not the diction that's the issue, it's the know-it-all attitude you appear to have.


AxelShoes

Every single thing you said here *screams* that you're nowhere near as intelligent as you think you are, both as an individual and in the context of broader humanity. Just to be blunt. IQ tests are just as flawed, misunderstood, misused as polygraph tests. And in my experience, people who tout their supposed IQ score as *any* kind of metric by which to measure themselves against others and on which to hang their self-identity/self-esteem, are without fail some of the densest, least self-aware, most insufferable people to be around. Certain types of IQ tests in certain contexts, administered by qualified professionals for particular applications, can be very useful and appropriate diagnostic tools. Outside those contexts, though, they are worse than useless. I say all this as someone who, many years ago, suffered severe insecurity, loneliness, and pitiable self-esteem. I did exactly what it seems like you've done--use my apparent intelligence as both a shield and a sword, to excuse my friendlessness and social ineptitude and protect my fragile ego from rejection, and also to attack and feel better than everyone around me. I wasn't as attractive, athletic, talented, outgoing, successful, etc. as everyone else seemed to be. But I could convince myself I was smarter (and therefore better) than all of them, regardless of any objective facts, and with that I was able to awkwardly mask my internal insecurities and turn it into external disdain. I don't know you from Adam, but it sounds like you're basically in the same boat. The only difference is that you've taken some half-assed "IQ test" that's given you a number that you can seize onto as some objective fact that "proves" your superiority. But it's a bullshit number, and ironically, your fixation on it shows that it proves the exact opposite of what you think it does. You're not more "qualified" than these other people, certainly not in the way you think. If you really were, you would not display the obvious insecurities you do by refusing to engage with them. It's no different than the horribly-insecure whackos who are obsessed with displaying how "strong" and "brave" they are by driving a jacked-up truck, owning tons of guns, acting aggressive towards anyone and anything, always posting memes about being hardcore and a badass, etc. Truly self-confident and strong people don't need to constantly tell the world how strong and self-confident they are. You've probably heard the line from Hamlet, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." That's basically what I'm getting at. Same with the trope about vocally anti-gay politicians who turn out to be secretly gay. The more someone feels compelled to proclaim themselves to be a certain thing, the higher the likelihood that they are truly the exact opposite of that thing. Likewise, truly intelligent people don't need to hang their whole personality on a useless number from a useless test and look down their nose at everyone else based on a misplaced sense of superiority. It literally tells the world the exact opposite of what you think it does about you.


TheTaoOfMe

Dang, that was a beautiful read. Well written, and well thought out.


direwolf50

If you think IQ is as actual measure of intelligence you're the stupid one.


cityboy2

I beg to differ. Have a good day.


TCFNationalBank

Is this a copypasta


TheTaoOfMe

If we’re going to throw out qualifications, I scored 99%th percentile for the PSAT, 98% for the SAT, 95% the MCAT, have an undergraduate and graduate degree in the sciences from two different IVY leagues, was hired by my graduate school to assistant lecture and help run the graduate research division, then went on to medical school where I’m just about graduated. By all estimations I am fairly intelligent and to be completely honest your post screams of an utter lack of intelligence that’s heavily compensated by the delusion of superiority. Any remotely intelligent person would have the awareness to know how absolutely asinine you sound. You aren’t elevated or superior in any way, nor do you have grounds to assume anyone sees anything in less of a picture than you. You claim to have superior qualifications without reason and elevate yourself based on spurious non-standardized tests. Unless you are some savant with other developmental disorders, your lack of awareness of these issues makes it clear that your claims have absolutely zero substance.


cityboy2

Yikes, and people are calling *me* arrogant. Okay Mr. Ivy League. (You prob went to Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell or Penn (*cough* penn state) lmao, not real ivies)


TheTaoOfMe

Yea see if you were actually intelligent you’d get that me listing all my credentials was to mirror your own behavior. The fact that I have more credentials than you doesn’t make me more arrogant than you. Clearly you missed that. And an IVY is an IVY or are you so unintelligent that you think your arbitrary distinctions somehow change what is and is not? Did you even go to any of the “fake” ivys? Hell no of course you did not. You’re probably still in high school. But either way I was at columbia thank you very much. Yea, if it wasn’t already clear even your reply here screams a lack of intelligence. How pathetic that a kid runs around thinking they’re better than everyone else when they can’t even navigate a thought process as simple as this. Lol.


cityboy2

Dude just say which “ivies” you went to. Gosh.


TheTaoOfMe

That’s your reply? So not only can you not read but you’re also essentially a child.


cityboy2

What other Ivy? Cuz you went to two


TheTaoOfMe

I didn’t say for privacy, but do explain why you think that matters? If your whole argument is that it doesn’t count because you arbitrarily think it’s invalid then you’re even more disabled than I thought. But even worse, if you think discrediting a single university by your own arbitrary standards somehow discredits me in my entirety, you’re a completely lost cause who relies on fallacy to deflect from facing reality. Btw I thought I remembered your name from another post. This was you eh… https://reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/pvxlk7/why_do_native_americans_look_like_mexicans/ Yea, honestly how you say the things you do in the comments and still consider yourself superior in intellect is beyond me. It’s like punching a crippled puppy at this point.


cityboy2

I’m smart you are not, dum dum


TheTaoOfMe

Ah yes, the sign of true intelligence when called out for fallacy and a lack of common sense: juvenile deflections.


_deathblow_

You’re a fool


Medical_Conclusion

>Thus I am more qualified than them. In what? You can't possibly be more qualified than everyone else on every topic. >Thoughts? Should I change my behavior? My thoughts? You sound like you're probably an incel who spends most of their time in their mother's basement, watching YouTube videos that reinforce your worldview. Keep claiming to be playing 4d chess, with your galaxy brain if that's what makes you happy. But just know you sound like an insufferable asshole.


cityboy2

Not saying I’m more qualified than everybody else. You misunderstand my perspective. And I am definitely not anything you claim. Please steer clear of ad hominems.


Medical_Conclusion

You know if you really were that smart, you'd be intelligent enough to be able to explain your arguments in ways anyone could understand. Hawking, one of the most brilliant minds, wrote A Brief History of Time, for people that had no background in physics. If you can't even make yourself understood on the internet, how smart are you really? Edited to add You ask what I thought about your post. And what I described is exactly what I thought when I read it. I don't know if you're actually like that, but boy is that the impression you give. If you don't want people's opinion of how you come across, then don't ask for it. By the way it's rude to edit posts without denoting it.


Randomaccount45343

First off, you're not as smart as you think you are. And if you were, you'd know that you're committing an ad hominem fallacy by saying "your argument can be disregarded because I'm smarter than you." No intelligent person employs textbook logical fallacies and thinks they're correct in doing so.


cityboy2

Logical fallacies do not apply to every situation. For example, in this case I know for a fact that I’m more qualified because I thought of the concept through using more critical thinking.


Randomaccount45343

Then show your work instead of committing an ad hominem fallacy. And yes, in every debate, logical fallacies apply.


MyUsernameIsAwful

Then why not put your money where your mouth is and prove it by indulging them in debate?


cityboy2

For reasons which I already stated multiple times. They cannot grasp and navigate the complexity so it’s a waste of time. And I am willing to debate, just other academics.


MyUsernameIsAwful

That sounds like a convenient excuse to get out of looking like a fool.


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cityboy2

I don’t think they’re stupid to understand, just incapable of grasping/visualizing my own mental map of the concept.


Maranne_

IQ isn't an adequate measure for your abstract thinking capacity. You can't even compare yours to the IQ of someone in another age group. You're a classist asshole.


-churchmouse-

Assuming that someone won't be capable of comprehending your ideas or how you move through thoughts is pretty ass hat-ish. You're saying that you aren't assuming they are less intelligent, but then act in a way that tells people you don't have time for them. That makes you seem like a jerk. What is your goal with this question? If you are going to argue with the majority of people telling you how you sound, you're just proving their point further. So what was your goal with this post? I don't understand. To ask a question and then require people to either analyze what they say to you, for you, or tell them they're dumb too?


_deathblow_

You know what? No, don’t change your behavior. I really want to see how far you get in life and how happy you end up by treating others like they aren’t worth your time. And frankly, it would be an act of kindness simply to leave everyone out of your delusional superiority complex. So just stay on this path. Spare us all.


wt_anonymous

If you really had a high IQ you'd know how worthless of a measurement IQ is. You just sound like a jerk.


ghilliesniper522

You know how stupid you sound saying, " I think in a 4 dimensional view"


FuckYourBans2021

TLDR: Yes and you will spend the rest of your life confounded by the world’s universal reaction to you.


jbrains

You're an asshole for shutting down people, ignoring the rest of your question. As for whether you ought to change your behavior, I find the question pointless. You'll change your behavior if you want to and you won't if you don't. You can choose.


rootytooty83

How do you know they have a lower IQ than you? Do they show you their results, do you make them sit an IQ test before you talk to them? Also, IQ test are very bias, they don’t really set you above anyone else in terms of understanding or knowledge level. I think you’re just an arrogant yet insecure asshole.


IdealBlueMan

If you’ve decided not to learn from the people you interact with, it doesn’t matter what your IQ is. You’re going to remain ignorant.


GroundbreakingWing48

You have to change your behavior. A lot of intellectual debates have more to do with understanding how your conversation partner thinks rather than persuading them or them persuading you. If you ever get to a place in management, you will discover that simply telling people to do something without making sure they understand completely is a recipe for disaster. The faster you can convince them to do what you need them to do, the better off everyone is. Intellectual discussions is how you can practice communicating complex thoughts with people who do not think like you do. It also helps if they think give a shit about them, which is projected by listening to them.


HippieInAHelicopter

Yes, you should change your behavior.


TheApiary

Yes, you're being an asshole if you tell people you don't want to debate them because they're not smart enough. Just say you don't feel like talking about it right now


Spokker

If you're smarter, you're smarter. Why waste time on us plebs?


my-coffee-needs-me

Yes, you are an asshole. You seem to be eager to remain an asshole.


cityboy2

Ok dum dum