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My political compass of some of the Fallout factions

My political compass of some of the Fallout factions

eagleOfBrittany

Wtf isn't the NCR like the definition of neoliberalism, how are they on the left


Austria-Hungry-SFR

They're statist so They're a bit authoritarian


Aelirynn

True, they should be authleft. They do try to give out food/supplies to alot of ppl (with *some* success...) and they are very militarized and taxes exist...


eagleOfBrittany

that just kinda sounds like American neoliberalism which is a right wing ideology. Their current position implies that they are a socialist state


Unflairedfool

That still doesn’t make them auth left just because they’re a mixed economy. Auth center but less authoritarian then the brotherhood and legion makes more sense.


gouellette

NCR is the LITERAL embodiment of State Servitude


Unflairedfool

Why isn’t caesar’s legion auth left in that case.


gouellette

Wouldn't legion be Auth-Center?


Unflairedfool

Yes but why wouldn’t the NCR also be auth center just less authoritarian. Them being auth left suggests they’re a planned economy.


gouellette

Are they not? They have their own currency and citizen soldiers.


Unflairedfool

Does that make them a planned economy?


gouellette

The fact they have supply lines and organized bureaucracy makes them industrial communist. I'm just saying it seems like Legion is Fascist to the core, and are merely Economic opportunists.


eagleOfBrittany

ah yes communism is when supply lines and organized bureaucracy. That would make almost every government that exists and has ever existed communist.


gouellette

Bro We're talking about Fallout Do the Khans have supply lines? Dr. Marcus and Black Mountain? Is Brotherhood of Steel an inherently command economy? Read the room...


gouellette

NCR seems pretty Tankie to me. I think that's my main point.


Austria-Hungry-SFR

Ironic that California has a red star on it


gouellette

Da! But also, Bear, vis 2 heads like Chernobyl


Aelirynn

Where would the Institute, Followers of the Apocalypse and Mr. House be? Personally I went with a Institute + Minutemen alliance in my playthrough. *edit: Mr. House says in-game he prefers the term "autocrat"...make of that what you will, I don't know.*


Hortator02

House would be hard authright. He wants to be a dictator over a laissez-faire economy. He's Pinochet but far more capitalist.


yokozuna_666

Good use of time? probably not. Am I impressed? Absolutely. ⬆️ 🗳


gouellette

No LibRight factions, because the logical conclusion of LibRight is how the world of Fallout came to be... (Specifically New Vegas)


Annual_Education3554

No it's not, states ruined everything


kokot786

You should separate brotherhood under diferent elders


Hortator02

They'd all be Authcentre or maybe authright. They're all Militant, and so all Authoritarian. Even Lyons; he didn't forcibly collect technology, which presumably translates to less economic regulation, but he was still a militant that asserted dominance over the CW and the Pitt with things like the Scourge of the Pitt and his war against the Super Mutants. Pretty sure the BoS under him conscripted, too. He'd be the only authright. All the other Chapters collect technology, but for obvious reasons can't be classified as tankies or anything, and so would be authcentre.


GarthTheGross

Who are the ones with the light blue flags?


Austria-Hungry-SFR

Nuka world raiders


Hortator02

Shouldn't the Legion be more auth than BoS? The Legion is a police state, everyone that isn't a trader is a slave (even technically men), and they're focused purely on hegemony and imperialism. The Brotherhood don't really assert themselves over society more than is necessary, and when they do build their own societies like in the case of Broken Steel and Fallout 4, no one is forced into the military or forced to contribute to the state. Even in the west, despite being purely Military, people are still free to leave.


Austria-Hungry-SFR

Did you use authoritarian tactics though