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snek Myths and facts

snek Myths and facts

Phylogenizer

!myths for the bot. Cottonmouths don't chase people. This information is all correct.


captaindrakon

My favorite part is "zoooom".


humblenoob76

“I’ve made a terrible mistake”


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ascrubjay

Yes, but their venom usually isn't lethal to humans, and they have an undeserved reputation for aggressiveness because of the displays the make when they feel threatened. Like almost all snakes, leave them alone and you're fine, but people don't know that and so will often kill them as a pest.


Ramt_1

I grew up in a swampy part of NC, the problem with them is they're hard to see and don't have a rattle. I've almost stepped on a couple that were balled up chilling in the brush. But they're still pretty rare compared to other snakes in the area.


Digigoggles

It’s the same with Copperheads which live slightly further north. They’re non aggressive but their camouflage is so good theres a danger of literally stepping on them or their nest


BadBorzoi

I was hiking with a friend and spotted a copperhead in some leaves by the trail and pointed it out, look a copperhead! My friend could not see it at all until I took a very long stick and held the end mere inches from the snake. I think I only saw it because it had moved a little. Excellent camo even standing right over it. We left the little guy to his own devices and moved on. Such a pretty snake.


dackling

I lived in PA my whole life where apparently there are copperheads, but I never saw one. I recently moved to NC, And I saw 5 in one day on our biking trail lol. It was pretty cool!


meowbands

I was in some back swamps of Florida after a particularly good rain, and got the four wheeler stuck in knee deep water. While dad helped me get it unstuck, I see a water moccasin slowly swim by. Fuck that shit, that was absolutely terrifying


stewmberto

>usually isn't lethal Also known as "lethal"


SyntheticAffliction

Lethality isn't the only factor to consider. The venom causes heart problems, and unlike most other tissues in the body, heart tissue doesn't heal. Once it's damaged, it's damaged for life. EDIT: Technically no tissue truly \*heals\* but my point is that the heart is put at a huge disadvantage from scar tissue that other organs aren't really affected much by. The heart is used constantly and consumes a lot of energy and is under constant physical stress, meaning any amount of scar tissue will greatly affect its lifespan.


ascrubjay

Um. No, as someone with close experience with heart issues and subsequent surgeries, that's bullshit. The problem is that with significant enough damage, there will be scarring, which impedes function.


SyntheticAffliction

Do you not understand what scar tissue is? Cardiac cells that were damaged/destroyed and scarred over are no longer functional. Scar tissue loses all of the functionality of the cells it's replacing. It's just there for structural support. Not even the liver can fully regenerate. It's pseudo-regeneration. Minor damage and scarring of heart tissue may not be apparent in younger individuals, but once you get older, it will become relevant and reduce the overall lifespan of the organ. People who experienced heart inflammation from COVID or the mRNA vaccine will likely have scar tissue in the heart. Only creatures with complete regeneration, such as salamanders, can fully regenerate tissues without scarring. Stem cell research could eventually lead us to the possibility of full organ tissue regeneration in humans.


BeardedZorro

Having worked construction around water in the south I can tell your for certain their reputations have been earned many times over.


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Perryn

If you step on me while I'm sleeping I might do you some harm, too.


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Perryn

I'm just saying, if you go out into the snakes space (they don't know property lines) and don't bother watching your step and then hurt them, you don't get to act like they're the asshole for reacting to it as a threat. It'd be like hanging around being antagonistic about snakes in a post about snakes in a subreddit about appreciating snakes and not being able to understand why people aren't reacting positively to your contributions.


NovaThinksBadly

It is venomous, but not enough to be really dangerous. Due to their behavior when they believe they are being threatened, they have an unfortunate stereotype of being seen as aggressive, when in reality they tend to be much more timid and just want to be left alone, similar to most snakes and introverts.


Acrobatic-Whereas632

yes. very venomous.


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hans_jobs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_piscivorus#Venom Agkistrodon piscivorus venom is more toxic than that of A. contortrix, and is rich with powerful cytotoxic venom that destroys tissue.


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sludgemonsterx

It doesn't and it isn't. Rattlesnakes and Coral Snakes are both far more venomous.


Azh1aziam

Ehhhh they’re also incredibly aggressive..another fun fact about American snakes In texas, rattlesnakes have learned not to rattle to avoid wild pigs.


havoc8154

They are definitely not. They get a bad reputation for being "aggressive" because they have poor vision. They will occasionally just swim right up to a person or boat in the water because they can't tell what it is and they're looking for a perch. Also, rattlesnakes all over the US are becoming more and more likely to not rattle, but it's because they've been hunted by humans. People kill the snakes they can find, and they find snakes that rattle readily.


Gonzobot

It literally says you're wrong in the image displayed, dude. Why are you doing this?


GrowCrows

They aren't aggressive at all. Snakes in general aren't aggressive, they are defensive.


jokerelgo

They aren't as aggressive as you think. The most pissed off cottonmouth I've dealt with was after we handle him a bunch while collecting data. Also there is no evidence supporting the idea that hogs/hunters have reduced rattlesnakes will to rattle. The last 2 rattlesnakes I found didn't rattle at me likely because I didn't give them a reason to. I kept my distance and didn't linger for long.


PokemonMaster619

Yes. The venom makes you feel like your mouth is filled with cotton, hence the name. EDIT: Ok, disregard what I said, I suppose wive’s tales aren’t to be trusted lmao.


serpentarian

The name comes from the fact that the interior of their mouths are white. When threatened they open their mouths as a sign saying ‘please don’t step on me’.


catsandskyscrapers

nope


Ayeager77

Not even close


mochi_chan

Nope nope nope is just so funny coming from a snake.


notapoke

That's definitely most of what my snakes say


mochi_chan

That really made my day :3


notapoke

My little garters will fall off of stuff trying to run away when they first notice you. They're adolescents and see everything that moves as a reason to run. They chill out if you hang out with them but first is always "nope!"


mochi_chan

That is very cute in a goofy way. When I was a teen I really wanted a pet snake, but now I don't know.


notapoke

It's a bunch of research you need to do and takes a real amount of care and some money. Don't do it lightly. That said they're fascinating.


Rowcan

When the nope rope nopes.


SpriteUnicorn

I accidentally stumbled upon a cottonmouth who had just killed a huge rat. He went into classic cottonmouth pose all curled up and mouth open. But he never chased me. Instead he took off into the grass. I felt bad I interrupted his meal.


Meanttobepracticing

Cottonmouths are cool snakes, wish I could see one in person.


manga_fanatic

I've seen them in the wild before. They're pretty chill, just want to be left alone.


mikerall

Sounds like...99.9% of "scary" critters.


Tats_and_Lace

So as an introvert, am I an honorary snek?


Perryn

Have you ever shown someone your teeth when startled while hoping you wouldn't be forced to make good on the threat? If so, welcome to the club!


Tats_and_Lace

I've certainly displayed my teeth while saying 'keep away and definitely do not fu----g touch me'. Omg! My first club membership!


Perryn

Welcome aboard! Our meetings are never; please stay away from me.


Meanttobepracticing

I want to come to the US and see all the cool snakes/animals.


binkleybloom

And we'd love to have you! Just don't visit Washington DC - it's only the asshole snakes in that city. (I kid - it's actually a really cool city to visit)


AndySipherBull

Kinda fake tho, snakes will get aggressive for weird, snake reasons. I stumbled on what i assume was a mating ball of garter snakes once (yes garter snakes, the Mr Beans of the snake world) and they were hyper aggressive, like snakes would leave the ball to 'run at me' and try to bite me with their useless garter snake mouths.


weirdusernamebutokay

I’ve seen quite a few here in the Southern states and they’re genuinely beautiful! Their defensive posture is interesting to see up close, just looks like they’re yelling at ya. You can stand pretty close (carefully might I add) and as long as you don’t make threatening movements or invade their safety space, they go about their business haha


shrike1978

They are amazing snakes. They're normally skittish, but they can be surprisingly curious in the right circumstances. I had one approach my kayak once to check me out. Swam up close to the edge of my wake and tracked me for a hundred yards or so. Once it was satisfied, it broke away and swam toward the bank.


level1enemy

I met a cottonmouth in my neighborhood one time. He was just laying on the sidewalk (I live in Florida.) I had an interest in reptiles and sneks in particular, so I knew what he was and that they are not as aggressive as people think. I escorted him back to his home in the swampy ditch nearby using a traffic cone. I was worried he would get run over. 😮


notsaroundtown

Kind of you ☺️


LeviMeme

The last one is true for almost all the snakes in the world


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ErtaWanderer

I'm afraid you've had a misconception cottons do not chase people they are probably trying to run to their shelter that is behind you. You are too big to eat in venom is expensive as far as calories go they don't want to waste it on you


acpezoldt

I work out in the Florida Everglades, and I see cotton mouths all the time. Literally never have a problem with them. A cotton mouth even came up and swam around me once, but never displayed aggression just seemed to be curious about why I was there! They're really cute if you are just calm around them.


Meanttobepracticing

I've seen video of a cottonmouth investigating a boat and it just swam up to the boat, had a look to see what the new thing was and then went away. Not a hint of aggression.


TornadoJohnson

Cotton mouths are chill snakes never once had an issue with them. They will let you know if they are there and if you respect their space they will leave you alone. Water snakes on the other hand they are dicks


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Bigboss123199

Water moccasins and cotton mouths are the same snakes.


Jdw1369

Youre right, but good luck trying to convince anyone of that lol.


myppisthebigest

Snakes are usually more scared of us because were bigger


devvorare

Why do you think they are often called nope ropes? Because they prefer to nope out of there


YourPhoneCompany

Actually, they're called that because WE nope the hell out when it comes to snakes.


serpentarian

I like his version better


YourPhoneCompany

I respect that. I prefer to squash misinformation.


marsley

I’ve not heard of this species before, sounds like they get a particularly bad rap. But I’d love it if there were more of these factoid posts on different species!


meowkers

I spent large amounts of time in my youth catching and releasing, observing etc turtles, snakes, frogs, nutes, crawdads in south east Texas. When walking around marshy areas or culverts, water moccasins (cotton mouths) where abundant. I've nearly stepped on them many times. It scared the shit out of both of us. They always flee rather than bite. Unless you actually step right on top of them. They are big muscular snakes that move very quickly and can intimidate anyone. They 100% do not willingly attack people when they have any other option. Nine times out of ten they sense you walking and flee the area before you even get there. (Usually I could see them fleeing from about 20 feet away).


useles-converter-bot

20 feet is the length of approximately 26.67 'Wooden Rice Paddle Versatile Serving Spoons' laid lengthwise


anima1mother

I spend some part of my childhood in Florida. We use to live in a trailer park that was surrounded by swamp. Cotton mouths use to come out of the swamp at night and climb up on our central air unit that was outside of our trailer because it was warm.


Dino_Khan

I once stepped on this snek around dusk. Did not see it due to the light levels until I was right on top of it, and stopped before I put my whole weight on on it. Snek just noped out of there. Cottonmouths don't want to fight if they don't have too.


jinnyjonny

If a snake doesn’t back down you better


mrfancysnail

they are in the southeast only, unless some idiot takes them to a nearby park and releases them... I live in LA county and there was a park with a lake that someone released like a pair or two into. There were lots of other stuff released into it like pythons, snapping turtles, and at one point an alligator. Said alligator, Reggie the alligator was caught and now lives in the LA zoo.


DaelynMunulder

I live on a lake that's infested with cottonmouths, and I can confirm these facts. These little guys are scared of you, no, flat out terrified. I've only heard of bites occuring when someone literally steps on one, so they bite in self defense. Stay safe and watch your step, lads!


bladezaim

Uumm cottonmouths are everywhere.....especially with so many states legalizing marijuana these days


Night_Thastus

This guide gets more jpgified every time it gets reposted. :/


ThatOneFurry-

About that last one, I did actually get chased by one once when I was 8 at my fishing spot. It was zooming at me from like 50 feet away, I ran and didn't come back for months maybe I was near a nest or something idk


dreadpiratesleepy

I too have seen what I was told at the time was a cotton mouth chase a little canoe but from reading other comments maybe it was actually a water moccasin


Bigboss123199

Water moccasins and cotton mouths are the same snakes. This little guide is bullshit. There called cotton mouth in the south around Florida as it shows. In other parts of the country they're called water moccasins.


ThatOneFurry-

Cotton mouths and water moccasins are two names for the same snake but you're right, it could have been a regular water snake as I hadn't got a good look at it before running


Tamtumtam

there are a few venomous snakes where I live, most commonly [this mad lad](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daboia_palaestinae). we are taught to gtfo as children "if we see a snake with a triangular shaped head" because they're venomous. is it true that every snake with a triangular shaped head is venomous? edit: I'm being downvoted over... asking a question?


ohmygodsun

Not necessarily, some non-venomous species mimic the head shape and pattern/colors of venomous snakes as self defense. Plus there are some venomous snakes that don't have that triangular viper-like head shape. I'm American so elapids like the coral snake come to mind. Depends on where you live. I'd just do some more in depth research on your local snakes if you're curious and continue leaving them alone.


Fushui

Triangular shaped heads are a fairly good indicator if a snake is venomous, but there are definitely some exceptions. Some non venomous snakes will flatten their heads to make themselves look more dangerous. [In this article](https://livingalongsidewildlife.com/?p=2803) is a picture of a corn snake that has flattened its head into a triangular shape. Also, some venomous snakes don’t have triangular heads. A good example of this is the coral snake!


Tamtumtam

nice


opalappleopamps

This reads as if cottonmouths wrote it to get us to let our guards down


AtCougarNation

They certainly reside in Delaware & Maryland so why they aren't included in the map bugs me


VAblack-gold

Because they don’t. Furthest north they go on the east coast is south east Virginia


AtCougarNation

They're rare but here.


hayseed_byte

They absolutely are aggressive and will chase you. Who the fuck wrote this?


Birthday-Tricky

I was at a family BBQ this past weekend and my brother told me he pulled a tarp off firewood and a nest of baby copperheads were under it. He said they started to chase him and he was worried the mother was close by and would get him. I said "Wow that must have been scary!" I was thinking, "WTF. Snakes don't chase people"


Mazahreh52

Water moccasin is my favorite snek


jumpinoutofmyflesh

I have experienced cottonmouths/water moccasins chase me on several occasions. Always pond or lake fishing. They are attracted to the fish stringer and I can only guess that they want the easy meal. They have also fallen into my boat several times when running yo-yo and trot lines at night. Grew up in Arkansas and can verify that these aren't myths. Rare maybe, but not myths.


Drakmanka

That very last panel gives a whole new definition to "nope rope" lol


JustAnNPC_DnD

I don't live in the area listed and we still most definitely have cottonmouths.


annahunstone

Thank you ❤️


SimonLaFox

In America, the "southeast" is in the south east part of the country, and the "midwest" is in the south east part of the country.


TiltnJimmy

In that map I think "midwest" signifies the portion of land including east Texas up to Arkansas and Missouri. I was from St. Louis and we heard about cottonmouths being found in our state. Turns out they were a lot more common in the south boot heel part of the state. They are adept to water and the Mississippi River is a big habitat for them. BTW I like snakes.


berzerkle

They're everywhere where I live


JetoCalihan

... That means nothing to literally anyone reading this. Because none of us know where you live...


berzerkle

Where all the cottonmouths live obviously.


bumpty

I have definitely been chased by a cotton mouth. That shit is not a myth. Was I chuckin rocks at it first? Yes. I was doing that. But I needed to get my fishing lure that got stuck in a branch and I needed him to move. I didn’t actually hit him but he chased after me for like 10 yards. Scary.