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Electric Dodge Muscle Car Will Arrive in 2024, Concept Will Arrive Next Year

Electric Dodge Muscle Car Will Arrive in 2024, Concept Will Arrive Next Year

ButtfuckerTim

Ah yes, the Dodge Thundercat.


Jarvis28000

Trademark this rn


einarfridgeirs

License [the logo](https://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4300000/Thundercats-thundercats-4312341-1280-800.jpg) rn ffs...


DankChunkyButtAgain

Base model is the Snarf, top tier model is the Lion-O


Voltaiiic

Dodge marketing needs to cut you check sir. 👍


Gurrnt

Too good not to use. Yet they still go with "eMuScLE". Like what about Stormcharger or something too.


krodders

Storm has... other connotations at the moment. Not going to be used for a while


CleverNameTheSecond

Thundercat could definitely be the Hellcat equivalent for their Electric Charger/Challenger.


_c_manning

Them changes


penguinchem13

Thundercougarfalconbird


V8-Turbo-Hybrid

Then Ford would sue them because Ford has already owned many "Thunder" nameplates.


Sean_Ornery

That's great but I hear you need to buy a Charger with it.


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Sean_Ornery

How much did they charge you for it?


Elite_Club

Yo dawg


einarfridgeirs

Then they'll complicate the issue even more by relasing the higher trim version, the Super Charger.


yousaydumbthings

Dodge: “our headlights are electric what more do you want?”


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Dammit you slut.


Smitty_Oom

> Dodge will launch an electric muscle car in 2024 under what it's calling eMuscle OK. I'm usually not one to be hard on names for vehicles, because most sound stupid at first. But... eMuscle? It sounds like a protein shake infomercial product.


mulletstation

fight milk


foolish_me

CAAAAaaaawww!!!


-ZeroF56

They could just call it the Charger…


Shloppins

Woah... Imagine they used a charger. Then painted it orange. Used a butchered weird looking knock off Confederate flag on the top then painted General-E? Wow. The amount of heads that would quite literally EXPLODE.


-ZeroF56

You just solved the problem of getting the entirety of rural America to embrace EVs.


Shloppins

I can only expect my check is on its way now. That or the dodge man is going to message me to delete this. Undecided.


Mega_Harald

Why should they?


0123045607890

That would be badass


LucasTW79

I fucking love that idea. Someone better do that with the car when it comes out.


burntrubrmallet

Yeah, you'd think they'd at least gone with just Muscl-E.


AmbitiousButRubbishh

pronounced like *'Muscly'*, I like it


assblast420

I flex my eMuscle while typing reddit comments.


Bojarow

It's probably a working title. It will have a different name when released.


wellpaidscientist

I fucking hope so. Just sell me an E 'Cuda already!


Teledildonic

So if the right Chris buys one, it will be Hem's E-Cuda?


Seref15

Barr-E-cuda


mrcompositorman

Yeah clearly a working title


socsa

>What up!!! We're three cool guys looking for other cool guys who wanna hang out in our party mansion. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged, if you're fat you should be able to find humor in the little things. Again, NOTHING SEXUAL.


AutoGeek3000

I don't think "eMuscle" will be the name of the vehicle. It sounds more like a badge that will indicate the powertrain has an electric component to it (or is entirely electric). So, they bring out this flagship electric muscle car, show what they can really do with electric cars, then they add "eMuscle" to the existing lineup of gas vehicles to further increase their power output (at least as a transition until most or all vehicles are fully electric). What they really need to do is market these things like freight trains. Modern freight trains are driven by electric motors... the diesel engines just provide the electricity for those motors. That's the idea they should be aligning with... that electric motors have a ton of power, and I assume that's the point of this flagship car. It's going to be expensive, but it's going to demonstrate that eMuscle isn't to be fucked with. That way, when they add eMuscle to their other vehicles that idea will carry over.


TendyExpress

I think it goes back to CDJR/Stellantis saying awhile back they'd "never make an electric vehicle". I see this is as their way of saying "we never said we wouldn't make electric muscle cars". Its a cop out for sure, but I'm still delighted to see what they'll bring to the table. Hopefully the eMuscle name gets lost along the way.


V12MPG

Are you saying a muscle car isn’t a vehicle?


TendyExpress

You know how CDJR is...We're talking about the same company who would throw a big supercharged V8 in anything if it sells. Personally, I love them for that haha Its purely word theatrics for them...


BWFTW

V12 vantage with a 6 speed? How is it? Is it everything I imagine?


V12MPG

It’s pretty sweet. Quite raw for an Aston but still comfortable. DBS powertrain in a small sports car platform with 3 pedals. Sounds incredible. Comes from the factory with a lightweight single-mass flywheel so it revs quite fast in both directions. Very different from the stock V8s in that respect. Set up to reward being driven hard so not an ideal daily. Great weekend car though! Mine has been very reliable. Unfortunately they didn’t make very many of them.


roman_maverik

Sounds like a term for a bunch of fit, oiled up guys on OnlyFans stripping down and drinking Fight Milk or Wolf Cola.


andrew3689

Is it just me or has Chrysler had a history of bad names? One that sticks out in my head was the Sling Shot. Granted that was a concept but tf were they thinking? Other ones that come to mind Sundance, Scamp, Breeze, Dart Swinger, Scat Pack etc.


socsa

I legitimately know a person who probably didn't buy a Hellcat because he was loudly talking about how much he wanted a "scat pack" in the break room, and someone thought he was talking about porn. He became the "scat man" from that day until the day he left. People would leave fake dog shit on his desk. I felt bad for the dude, but christ, what were they thinking?


OnlyStandard

>but christ, what were they thinking? There is a specific history with the term "scat pack" (IIRC it was a handful of Chrysler cars that were particularly performance oriented but were not the halo muscle cars, but I'm not sure) but the term "scat" was also slang back then for, as best as I can put it, "leaving quickly". Ex. "Scat, cat! Get out of here!" It's a retro thing. A callback to the muscle car era. I don't know why everyone is baffled by it. I'm in my mid-30's, born way past the period of time in which this term was in use, and when the scat packs came out I never thought poop.


prais3thesun

Makes sense but still I'm in my early 30s and to me scat = 💩


OnlyStandard

Context is key. If we are talking retro muscle car marketing, think 60's. If some rando says they saw some great scat last night, try not to talk to them anymore.


SecretAntWorshiper

That was my reaction to the Scat pack too, I was like umm wtf?


MPWR_

What an awful name. I'm not sure who's coming up with these but they really couldn't come up with anything else?


CodeCleric

They have to go all in over the top with the muscle name to convince you the electric crossover they ultimately release is a "true" muscle car.


blade740

I'm guessing it's going to end up being called the Dart (although that name has been used in recent years, a muscle car would bring it a bit closer to its roots. Other names they might consider: Coronet, Daytona, or Barracuda. But to me, Dart is the clear best option (assuming they're going to use a classic muscle car name and not come up with something new... but IMO that would be a terrible choice for a retro-styled EV muscle car).


tyrannosaurus_r

While I anticipate that a new name may be in the cards, I don’t think Dart will be it. The shit Chrysler 200 spinoff version from the early 2010s kinda spoils that. Coronet is too old sounding. Daytona may work, and Barracuda is exactly what I’d think a new name would be. However, for my money, I’m willing to bet that they’ll just call it the Challenger, and that’ll be the successor to the current iteration.


deadeyediqq

Ok how about Muscl-E


Pepsi_man_imposter

everyone seems pretty skeptical of this car in the comments. I'm surprised, if there's 1 thing dodge pretty much can't fuck up, its a muscle car.


AmbitiousButRubbishh

Shitting on Dodge/FCA/Stellantis just a pastime for this sub.


Recoil42

They just make it *so easy*, though.


Iced_Ice_888

Peugeot and Vauxhall seem to be making good cars, the rest of Stellantis though...


CoyotePuncher

You cant have an EV muscle car. Its an oxymoron. I feel like I'm surrounded by a bunch of teenagers who have no experience with a real muscle car. Is this an enthusiast sub or am I on /r/technology?


MaximumAbsorbency

Disagree, but I'm still in a Challenger fb group and I see boomers posting this take 100 times every time someone mentions this car.


NotSoAndre

I swear to god (mini rant), facebook groups (and facebook as a whole) are full of some of the worst, most arrogant gatekeeping know-it-alls. It’s like reddit, but so much worse.


CoyotePuncher

Yes, its an age thing. People who have never been around muscle cars definitely dont understand why "EV muscle car" is contradictory. Younger people love EVs because they appeal moreso to gadget enthusiasts than car enthusiasts. Go on youtube and find a video of a chambered exhaust camaro from the 60s and tell me an EV can ever live up to that. It cant. https://youtu.be/tqG6s7yfupc?t=39


MaximumAbsorbency

I don't agree that its just a young people thing. I think it is a sound/tech evolution thing. It seems that older enthusiasts think its more important for a muscle car to be loud. I, and others, think it's more important for a muscle car to be the fastest thing in a straight line, and now there is a better option for that than a big v8. Experience vs. performance. And that's not a new opinion, either, see: the Buick Grand National. And yes, I have idolized Muscle cars since I was a kid, and I've even owned one. I'm not just some geek Tesla fanboi... In fact, I don't like any currently available non-supercar EVs.


Mandalorian_GT

> Yes, its an age thing No it really isnt, it's a YOU thing. Over 40, loved muscle cars my entire life and I have no qualms about Dodge evolving and pushing the boundaries of automotive evolution.


CoyotePuncher

Sure, but it isnt a muscle car. Just like the Mach E isnt a Mustang. Words mean things.


Mandalorian_GT

> Sure, but it isnt a muscle car Except that no one can or will ever agree on what a "muscle car" is vs. a "pony car" etc. Its been a hot debate since the 60's when a clever suit coined the term. One thing I have never seen, is the rule that a muscle car HAS to be gas powered. Speaking of words meaning things, here is a couple of words for you, opinions and facts. You disparage people here for not knowing the difference, but you roll out your opinions and present them as facts. Maybe you should examine the meaning of these words, instead of declaring Dodge is dead and that electric cars cant possibly have any character? Just a thought.


CoyotePuncher

Yeah, you're right, nobody on here does seem to understand the difference between opinions and facts considering how many people keep telling me that I'm "wrong". Bunch of little children who dont understand that disagreeing with someone does not make them "wrong". I can say EVs make shitty enthusiast cars just like I can say that everybody likes ice cream. It shouldnt be all that controversial.


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OverlyPersonal

Why not? An ev can’t have relatively big engines and burn rubber?


CoyotePuncher

It can have a motor that gives it an impressive 0-60, but that isnt what a muscle car is. Muscle cars are big, heavy, loud, obnoxious cars. ICE is part of the experience. You cant have a muscle car without the sound at the very minimum.


gumol

> Muscle cars are big, heavy, loud, obnoxious cars. EVs can check 3 out of 4 those boxes


CoyotePuncher

"Muscle cars" are mostly about the character of the car, which is something an EV cannot replicate. I can see people arguing otherwise if they're a lot younger or if they've never been around real muscle cars, but as far as I'm concerned, you cant have an EV muscle car. Its a contradictory term.


stormshieldonedot

EVs can be exactly the same looking as a muscle car... Minus the sound. Now, that's not the most efficient way to make an EV, sure, but "they cannot replicate" is absolutely not true. Whether the Dodge EV muscle car sells, should be very interesting to observe. That's a different question, my guess is, yes if it's a decent product, irrespective of what the hardcore muscle dudes think.


OverlyPersonal

I’m not so sure. Muscle car to me means fast in a straight line, not so great in the corners, slightly too large and reasonably priced. I’m sure the electric version will make some crazy sounds too.


ScottKrafft

Fake sounds are absolutely garbage IMO. If you're gonna get an EV, don't you want the whole "experience", so to speak? For me, they have an image of a silent killer in a way; SUPER fast, but completely silent. Very mysterious; very cool. I wouldn't want it screwed up with sounds from a bygone era, you know what I mean? And this is from someone that LOVES regular engines. They're both better off having two separate images/experiences.


yousaydumbthings

>fake sounds are absolutely garbage Well most Chargers sound like garbage anyways but you still consider them muscle cars sooo


KEVLAR60442

IMO an electric sports car needs to sound like a Formula E car. Just completely embrace the shreik of electric motors.


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isaac098

I'd be okay with this


CoyotePuncher

...Or just buy an ICE car with an engine that actually sounds good?


prais3thesun

I agree in a sense, but you could still use big speakers to make the obnoxious brub brubs that will annoy the neighborhood with if that's your jam. An EV muscle car won't be a true muscle car, but an adaptation/evolution of one.


CoyotePuncher

Fake sound is worse than no sound. It still doesnt make it a muscle car


SecretAntWorshiper

There's no point in bitching about it. The days of V8s are gone 🥲


AtlanticBiker

r/cars is full of tasteless teenagers with no drivers license that echo chamber whatever shit they see online.


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Masters_in_Wumbology

I'm pretty excited - Dodge produced some crazy high powered cars so this should be a riot. Though the Challenger and Chargers were already porkers. I can't imagine how much this is going to weigh.


eathatflay86

Remember the copperhead concept car Chrysler/ dodge came up with in the 1990s? They should have gone with that, The Copperhead.


etr204

THE ELECUDA


AshKatchup

Really missed out on calling it MusclE.


yogi89

That only works in text form though


deadeyediqq

Pronounced "muscle-E"?


yogi89

That's the worst


directrix688

It’s about time we are getting some performance focused EVs. I just hope it’s not too weird looking


EV_Track_Day

They have their work cut out for them. They will need to hit a high 8, low 9 second 1/4 mile to keep up with the Plaid and Nevera. Would rather see them just produce a dual motor, rear wheel drive car that does insane burnouts and puts out around 700hp. Thats more on brand than creating an AWD car to compete with the really fast EVs.


V12MPG

Why would you expect Dodge of all people to try to compete with a multi-million dollar hypercar? I’m sure it’s much more likely to be what you hope for in the second part.


BWFTW

I'm half expecting them to just write "electric motor" on a piece of cardboard in sharpy and tape it on top of a 7 litre v8.


AutoGeek3000

"Fully electric starter"


BrandonNeider

The plaid is a $150k car and Dodge's whole shtick has been providing cheap performance. I assume Dodge makes a Plaid killer at the least for 80-90k.


V12MPG

Agreed. Will be interesting to see what they do. That’s certainly more realistic competition than Rimac.


vhalember

Yeah. If GM can release a much larger, 1,100 HP electric Hummer for $115k, Dodge doing the same for an 80-90k Hellcat replacement is highly reasonable. I will admit I'd miss the exhaust note, and the intoxicating whine. However, the most Dodge thing possible would be making their electric engine intentionally be louder.


V12MPG

> However, the most Dodge thing possible would be making their electric engine intentionally be louder. Perhaps attempt to get a whine sort of like the supercharger on their Hellcats.


DiplomaticGoose

Modern AC motors are generally always muffled but even a model s makes noise when all the deadening is removed, like on the [Saleen one](https://youtu.be/rsRaTVnXM5w). Even if it sounds like an RC car.


vhalember

I like that. It solves some of the "soul problem" EV's have. No sound makes them feel like a dead, lifeless, and emotionless appliance. Which admittedly is fine for 90% of buyers, but I'm not among them.


Accurate-Soup

This 100%. Even right now the Hellcats are slower than other muscle cars like the GT500. Dodge isn’t going to go crazy trying to fight a Hypercar. They just need to focus on building an electric car that feels like a muscle car to appeal to their customers


AmbitiousButRubbishh

The Hellcats came out 6 years ago, the GT500 has been out for 5 minutes. Why would the Hellcats be faster than the car that was engineered to be more superior than the Hellcats? Makes no sense


Accurate-Soup

GT500 has been out for like 2 years nearly. If Dodge wanted to have the fastest muscle car they would’ve updated theirs to be faster. That’s kind of what competition does. Your comment doesn’t make sense, the Hellcat has been getting constant updates anyway. Not Ford’s fault Dodge can’t build a car as good as theirs


AmbitiousButRubbishh

my point still stands: of course the newer car will be better


Accurate-Soup

But a company can choose to update a car. It doesn’t make my comment wrong.


AmbitiousButRubbishh

notice how you used the word "can", not "has too" in regards to updating.... Just because the GT500 came out doesn't mean dodge has to do anything to continue competing for sales


Accurate-Soup

Damn you seem upset I pointed out Dodge has a slower car


AmbitiousButRubbishh

> Not Ford’s fault Dodge can’t build a car as good as theirs You're the only being bitter^^ Just pointing out that it makes no sense to knock Hellcats for being slower than the newest muscle car on the block--newest car is typically always better. If you want to be a hater, knock yourself out.


bfire123

yeah. It doesn't have to keep up with the Nevara.


EV_Track_Day

I wouldn't expect Dodge to beat the Nevera but it would need to be in the 9s to compete with the $130k Plaid.


arcangelxvi

> Would rather see them just produce a dual motor, rear wheel drive car that does insane burnouts and puts out around 700hp. Thats more on brand than creating an AWD car to compete with the really fast EVs. It would certainly have a different character to the current crop of performance EVs, which would IMO make it a standout entry.


BananaFPS

>Nevera You’re joking, right? I don’t anyone has or will ever cross shop a dodge muscle car and an EV multimillion dollar hypercar.


EV_Track_Day

I just meant somewhere in that 1/4 mile range.


trevize1138

FCA is high on my list of "which legacy car company is going to be the Nokia/BB of EVs?"


Recoil42

See, the problem with that statement is: FCA doesn't exist.


What_the_8

Just don’t make it a Fkn SUV and call it a Challenger.


mulletstation

Stellantis is probably the manufacturer in the worst spot in building/obtaining batteries in the US, so really curious what their proposed pack used in this thing will be.


RoundaboutCrownVic

There is no such thing as an electric muscle car. end of.


AutoGeek3000

Why is that?


Iced_Ice_888

What about the Plaid which stomps every production car in a drag race


CoyotePuncher

Wellp, pack it up boys. If dodge of all brands is done with ICE, may as well consider new enthusiast cars a thing of the past. An EV "muscle car". What a joke. Better start buying the older ICE cars that you're interested in before they're too expensive to afford.


JerziDevil

Real enthusiasts drive an American Standardbred horse - the *original* muscle car.


wankthisway

Any more melodrama and you could pass for a soap opera


CoyotePuncher

Nothing I said is inaccurate. You think they're going to be investing anything into ICE cars?


AlsoSpartacus

> Nothing I said is inaccurate. You deciding for everyone else that EVs can't be enthusiast cars is inaccurate.


CoyotePuncher

...I'm deciding for everyone else? I dont know what you're talking about. Redditors get so bent out of shape over differing opinions.


Jaxraged

>may as well consider new enthusiast cars a thing of the past. Yeah when your apply your logic to everyone that happens.


CoyotePuncher

How old are you? Do you seriously not know how to tell the difference between a factual statement and an opinion?


Jaxraged

>Redditors get so bent out of shape over differing opinions. Woah buddy calm down


CoyotePuncher

????


isaac098

I agree on the point that this decade and maybe the second half of the 2030s are going to be the last years where enthusiast ICE powered cars will be in attainable price ranges.


Ok-Republic-3210

Weird to hear “electric” and “muscle” in the same sentence.


Bot_Retard

Dodge Charg'd


shigs21

wasn't it the manta?


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se160

It’s not 1985 anymore


16scatmango

Lol seriously like let’s all move on