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Shades of Blue highlight this San Francisco Victorian home

Shades of Blue highlight this San Francisco Victorian home

reverendharrypowell

[3919 20th Street](https://goo.gl/maps/uJVBrGSaA9zjaKq39), near Dolores Park. According to Redfin it last sold for $380,000 on Jun 26, 1996.


ImS0hungry

~$650,000 adjusted for inflation.


gronkaflomarous

Zillow estimate is $3.6M


4chanbetterkek

Zillow estimations are buttcheeks, things probably closer to a billion dollars on sf


Veauros

The price of houses there has increased five times as much as inflation, and boomers wonder why we can’t afford houses.


CriticoolHit

You sure it's not just because we're too lazy to stop eating avocado toast and pull on our bootstraps harder?


-teaqueen-

Now I want avocado toast. But avocados are so expensive! :(


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Nxll505

The funniest thing is when the older generation use that exact expression seriously, pulling yourself up from your bootstraps is supposed to mean attempting to accomplish something absurd but people use it and act like all young people are lazy and could make it if they just tried harder.


Azgurath

True, but when comparing home prices over time, it's also really important to factor in mortgage interest rates. In June of 1996, rates for a 30 year loan were at [8.47%](http://mortgage-x.com/general/national_monthly_average.asp?y=1996). Borrowing 380k at that rate means your monthly mortgage payment would be $2,916. Adjusting *that* for inflation gives you a monthly payment of $5,003. Working backwards using today's rates of ~2.75%, you could borrow ~$1,250,000. Obviously this house is worth more than 1.25 million today so the point still stands. But just straight adjusting housing prices for inflation is a little misleading.


ImS0hungry

This is assuming they are borrowing the money to purchase the home.


Generik25

That’s still insanely low for SF I think? I mean it wasn’t quite as crazy back in the 90s housing wise, but nowadays it must be at least a couple million.


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Lostmahpassword

I see the neighbor to the left upped their game too. Nice!


TriGurl

Beautiful home! Are those garages even functional though?


duggatron

This is a pretty common type of garage in SF. It's probably a tandem garage. It's not uncommon to see cars parked in the driveways either. From a distance it looks like someone crashed their car into the house.


ChinDeLonge

they’re also pretty commonly deceptively further back into the building, so it’s even easier to get in than they’d seem like.


lgisme333

It’s possible it’s even a two car garage, with tandem parking. If not then it may have a finished basement. This house is delux


Patchumz

As a SF resident, yes they're functional.


i_am_human_I_swear

How do you not scrape the bottom of your car though?


rividz

People just scrape the bottoms of their cars. Source: I live around here.


Patchumz

As the other person said... people just don't have very high respect for the bottom of their cars lol. Some of the hills are so steep that the only way to go into the intersection is to scrape the bottom of your bumper on the ground if your car is low enough. You see giant streaks dug into the road from this happening so often.


g0_cubs_g0

When I was visiting my friends in SF it seemed like people didn't respect cars in general. When I parked on the street I saw people hanging stuff from their trunks that covered their bumpers and I asked my friend what that as about and he told me people like to nudge other cars to make room for themselves when parallel parking so some people buy "bumper protecters". Also my friend had his car window smashed multiple times.


Sea_Elderberry_3470

I dunno about that. Cars cant really be nudged when they are in park/gear. I mean, I guess you can hit them hard enough to smash the parking pawl...


g0_cubs_g0

I definitely saw people giving "love taps" to cars as they were parallel parking, which explained this shit hanging from people's cars in my friends neighborhood. I think he lived in mission district. Also thought it was super weird that it was just accepted in his neighborhood that on Sunday's the left lane in their neighborhood became parking spots. https://imgur.com/S6oFse8.jpg


tyler_the_noob

very common to see on the east coast too in major cities like Boston or NYC


Sea_Elderberry_3470

Oh, I am sure people hit each other all the time with how much of a premium parking space is there. Hell, people suck at parallel parking even when they arent trying to squish a 9 ft car in an 8 ft space.


SirBensalot

It’s just to protect your bumper since you’re a lot more likely to get bumped in a city. Nobody is intentionally pushing parked cars… like the other guy said, you can’t just gently push a parked car forward.


toth42

>Nobody is intentionally pushing parked cars They certainly are in France


jaredearle

Yup. Don’t put your handbrake (parking brake to Americans) on if you park in Paris. We used to play the 75 game when we lived there. Any car with a 75 plate (75 is Paris) was _guaranteed_ to have a dent or scratch. The first to find it won.


Roger_Cockfoster

I mean, if you live on San Francisco, you're going to scrape the bottom of your car a lot anyway. We have some pretty fucking steep hills!


wlonkly

You scrape your car going [across intersections](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Union+St+%26+Jones+St/@37.7987092,-122.4156014,3a,75y,346.61h,93.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spav5sm9bIXaEqfsyk2wpkQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m11!1m2!2m1!1sjones+and+union,+san+francisco!3m7!1s0x808580ef019e5ec1:0x5c5bb32ba61b9493!8m2!3d37.799538!4d-122.41586!14m1!1BCgIgARICCAI!15sCh5qb25lcyBhbmQgdW5pb24sIHNhbiBmcmFuY2lzY2-SAQhidXNfc3RvcA) anyhow, one more scrape's no big deal.


here_live_not_a_cat

Hah. I was expecting that to be this SF bottom scraping picture :) https://www.flickr.com/photos/ojbyrne/144775508/


1limon

Bernal Heights


Poke_er

As an ex SF resident, yes they're functional. It's where all the pee accumulates.


GillicuttyMcAnus

Serious question- how the fuck does anyone afford to live in San Francisco? It seems like a charming city, but fucking assclown insane realestate prices. Houses like that do not seem desirable (charming house yes, but fuck that slope bullshit) and they're going for a million dollars?!


Brittany1704

Be my parents and still be renting. My step on makes very low 6 figures at UCSF. My dad makes mid 6 figure at UCSF. They keep getting out bid by all cash buyers.


Poke_er

Yea it’s tough. You either have a job that pays six figs that lets you get a studio, you have a bunch of roommates, or you have a significant other with a good job too. I used it as a stopover on my career, and it was well worth the investment. But yea, it’s really really hard. And you honestly don’t get much for the money. You could live in much better (warmer, cleaner, safer, more diverse, more open minded, etc) city for much less money. But if you want a springboard for your career in certain industries, it’s worth swallowing the pill for a bit. As soon as we started thinking about kids and a family, we got out.


thebestrosie

My parents bought before things got so crazy in the city and are currently renting out their home. They recently were looking for a new tenant and they got a lot of applications from people who were looking to buy and needed a place to stay for 6ish months. The incomes they saw were insane. There are plenty of couples in the Bay Area brining in a million a year, to them a one, two, three million dollar home is pretty reasonable.


tdiggity

Work in tech, 250k+/year is common.


Invisible_Target

I’ll never understand people who pay that much money to live that close to other people. If I had that kind of money, I’d have no neighbors


AvisDei

This house is probably worth *$4 million+. The garage is very functional. *edit $2+ million to $4+ million. Just need 12 full time jobs for this space


SanduskyTicklers

I imagine this is $4M plus. Just browsing Zillow


AtlantisTheEmpire

Wtf


Stone_Man_Sam

Welcome to California, where even a shitbox of a house can go for 300k in Stockton. Fucking Stockton.


FizzyBeverage

San Francisco? Probably closer to 5…


MarkJanusIsAScab

Jesus Christ. Someone on my block in the Minneapolis suburban area just sold for 280k and I was fucking gobsmacked. I bought for 105. How the fuck can anyone afford $5m?


mypornalt_

I literally wonder this about everything these days. How is everyone affording all this shit? The more money I have the more I'm confused by how much more other people have than me.


onewordbird

I think about this a lot too. Like I’m not doing too bad job/money wise but a house is still barely affordable, maybe. But all these expensive places everywhere....what are people doing that they can afford this!?


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him_johnson

Stock pays more than a salary ever will, and if you hold for the 1 year tax advantage when selling, its taxed less than your salary. The salary isnt what allows silvalley people to afford this, its the big payoff when 1-200k stock incentives go 10x or more over the next 5 years of working there. Stock incentives>salary.


NotJohnDenver

Tech


Vitriholic

It’s not. Most homes in really nice SF neighborhoods are 1-2 million. Only the most luxurious 4+ bedroom homes in the most expensive neighborhoods will go for 5.


yooossshhii

I think you’re off by a million for the nice neighborhoods. I think the median price of a house in sunset is $1.5 million+. Nicer neighborhoods are going to be $2-3 million for a single family home.


PurplePeruvian

I mean, 1-5 million may as well be the same number for those of us who will never be able to afford anywhere near that price range


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Ninboycl

Closer to 3100$ on a 2.75% 30 year fixed with the standard 20% down. This is cheaper than rent in most of the Bay Area, and you essentially get the property tax written off in your taxes from tax breaks for holding a 750k+ mortgage loan.


dats_cool

id be terrified to take a mortgage that size, what if the housing bubble pops in SF and you're left holding the bag? so risky.


PM_Pics_of_Corgi

This isn’t entirely true. The nicest homes in the most expensive neighborhoods go for 15+mm Look at pac heights, Lyon st, sea cliff, presidio terrace. Some neighborhoods out here regularly have listings above 25mm


dalecor

Working in FAANG or successful IPO. It’s not uncommon to make 300-500k+ per year in the bay area.


OnTheEveOfWar

$2M? No way. Ive lived in SF for ten years, this is likely $4M


GoAskAlice

Was wondering how the hell you'd get a car in there, but the curb's dropped, so I guess it's possible.


AtlantisTheEmpire

Step one: Have a tiny ass car. You’ll thank yourself for this anyway trying to find parking in SF.


Guyatri

Step 2. Don't buy a manual unless you also want to buy new tires for all that rubber you will be burning on those convenient lights on the edge of step hills. (California street I'm looking at you)


PrestigiousShift3628

Or a clutch job which costs more than tires


doubletwist

While I didn't live there, I did drive a stick through SF a few times and I don't recall ever spinning the tires. I'm not saying it was fun but it wasn't that bad.


theChucktheLee

Need a Mr Bean - style Mini auto.


GoAskAlice

How about a horse.


AtlantisTheEmpire

I mean. Maybe one of those little cute dwarf horsies like Sebastian from Parks and Rec? As long as you’re cool with shovel’n poo. Fertilizer for the garden out back?


zenithtreader

Dumping a horse's worth of feces into a tiny backyard...It would certainty smell lovely during summer.


mypornalt_

Yet there was a time when every city in America really did reek of shit


LionoftheNorth

A tiny horse's worth of feces for a tiny backyard. I see no problem.


AtlantisTheEmpire

Big hit with the neighbors I’m sure. But then you can gloat that your entire garden is organic down to the fertilizer and make them jealous. Because that just seems like something that would happen there.


h4x_x_x0r

Unexpected P&R ... Nice.


lootedcorpse

motorcycle


rabbitofrevelry

Why would you use a motorcycle to push a car in?


idunno2468

The depth of the sidewalk is deceiving, you’re only seeing about half of it. It flattens out, so the whole depth of that staircase probably is sloped between what you see and the door. Sometimes theyll also add extra tire-width ramps to make it easier


eza50

A lot of people drive cars that aren’t low if they live in a house like this. Subarus, Tesla’s, anything that isn’t low to the ground would be fine here


rainbowtwilightshy

Prius no, I had to install ramps just to get in my garage in SF


AtlantisTheEmpire

Honda Element. Yaauuuss.


AlgorithmInErrorOut

In san Francisco garages are great places for $1200 rent lol. Probably not the Victorian houses though. Source: friend stayed in a garage for $900/month 10 years ago. I'm guessing it's around $1200 now lol.


MaugDaug

Yeah, it's probably 2 cars deep.


jessicaramos1

I was just thinking having to back out or in that thing everyday ... yeah I just couldn't


TriGurl

Right? They seem so slim to me that I wonder if even an SUV would fit in there?


thinkinboutthembeanz

It took me forever to find that garage door


elee0228

I know a dude who worships shades of blue. He calls himself a cyantologist.


Dickies138

Thanks, dad.


Pieniek23

Do you know why you have to knock on the fridge door before opening? Because salad dressing.


40325

i am visibly shaken and upset by the fact that i chortled at this.


Pieniek23

Wife shook her head yesterday when I told her so I knew it was good.


FloydMarley

Blue, his house? With a blue little window and a blue corvette?


SarcasticAutumnFae

And everything is blue for him, and himself and everybody around


christoppa

But he ain't got nobody to listen to :(


ynthona

I'M BLUE


AgentCarmichael20

DA BA DEE DA BA DY


Proper_Aioli_6049

da ba dee da ba daa Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa


BadgerDancer

Got my wife to roll her eyes so your humour is at LEAST better than mine.


fatmummy222

Got mine to roll over.


iggyfenton

[I'm Blue](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinWA0EenDY)


rainbowtwilightshy

da ba dee da ba daa


Aggressive_Regret92

I'm afraid I just blue myself.


MotaHead

You're thinking of the Blue Man Group. This is a support group for depressed men.


LividParfait

Did this joke exist specifically for this moment?


itsitsitsitsitsits

I ask this about myself every day.


Kir_NB

r/dadjokes


captainperoxide

Did he design their west coast headquarters?


kaza6464

I like that colour scheme a lot!


shahooster

I hope so, because I bet it was a sonuvabitch to paint.


kaza6464

😂👍


MamaBear4485

Wow that’s absolutely beautiful. Whoever mapped out the colours has an excellent eye. Props to the painting contractor because that’s some serious precision work.


sillyandstrange

Man that's my color right there. I love that blue. Gorgeous house


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EnIdiot

Haint Blue is more a turquoise-indigo blue. https://chstoday.6amcity.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2020/10/IMG_0467-970x545.jpg


AtlantisTheEmpire

Seafoam


Siniestra_Yamasaky

I wanna go to San Francisco just for the architechture


CrumbsAndCarrots

Come for the architecture. Stay for the cool weather. That’s what I did. Definitely a beautiful city.


sfcnmone

And the views around every corner! That's what keeps me here.


Siniestra_Yamasaky

I won't stay but I will for sure visit


HertzRent-A-Donut

By far the most beautiful city I’ve ever visited


philosiraptor

It looks like it’s probably bigger on the inside. Edit: comments going whoosh Whoosh Whoosh Whoosh


pambannedfromchilis

Quick, someone pull up the listing!


Zekumi

I thought this was a reference to House of Leaves for like two seconds, then I realized.


forgotten-ahroun

That book... was weird


taoistchainsaw

Says Who?


frill_demon

Some Doctor, probably.


PortiaLabiata

Doctor who?


MingMingDuling

THE Doctor


humanistbeing

Yes


Potato_Muncher

I visited SF recently and saw a house for sale that looked just like this, and it was well over 2,500sqft. I live in an area with a lot of shotgun houses, but that was even deceiving to me.


lgisme333

I bet it’s gorgeous inside. And worth 5 million


TheAntiHick

MAKIN A DEPOSIT!


moneycomet

That's the most beautiful blue 50,000,000 dollar house I've ever seen.


bangupjobasusual

When your house costs five million dollars what’s a seventy thousand dollar paint job?


intellectualrambow

These unattainable beauty standards are getting out of control.


Ok_Dog_4059

I like blue but never thought it would work on a house but this is really nice .


danidomekiller

It costs $62.5 million


coldflames

To rent a closet.


CaptainPixieBlossom

For 1 hour.


Generalissimo_II

With 5 others.


gamerholic

With 800 + credit scores


Keitzer

And only on tuesdays


DearWhisper1150

Farrow & Ball paint really is amazing. Look at the depth of Colour!


meow-miao

truly! their color selection is incredible.


jlcotton1968

That's like 8M right there ☀️


Bethlet

Multiple offers, 20% over asking, no inspection.


BananaSentinel

Closed on a house Friday for just 2500 over appraisal. Banker guy, when making wire, said people were throwing 50% out of pocket over asking... Absolutely nuts.


stanleythemanley44

I don’t see what the big hurry is. I guess people think prices will just keep skyrocketing forever so they’d better get in now... that and cheap money, I suppose


vadersdrycleaner

Some of us wanna move out of our parents’ house


FingFrenchy

I know, that's the first thing I think when I see one of these in sf.


Pool_cocktail_repeat

Really beautiful!


Presence_Tough

reminds me of something from a series of unfortunate events


marlenes_tuxedo

This looks like a TARDIS!


jvillager916

That's why I like walking around this city.


lovesickhunny

San Francisco and San Jose have some beautiful Victorians, some of my favorites ever ❤️


e_hoodlum

Step right up, renters! Only $5400 a month!


likwitsnake

It's a ~$4M house in SF going to rent for a lot more than $5400/mo.


mossball2

people outside of SF have absolutely no clue how expensive it is lol. they can't even ballpark it


HertzRent-A-Donut

I live in Kentucky but also lived in the Bay Area. This kid I work with has never lived anywhere but his grandparents farm. I showed him this and was like how much do you think this costs? He was like wow yeah in San Fran? Probably like 1-200k? I started laughing so hard I cried


rainbowtwilightshy

Way over $5400/month. I currently pay $7,500/month for something not nearly as pretty. But a backyard which is unheard of in SF 🤷‍♀️


HamburgerEarmuff

You would think so, but a lot of these houses, assuming that they're not subdivided, actually rent for pretty reasonable rates compared to their cost. If it's a rental, good chance it's like a four bedroom house on one floor that rents for maybe $4000-6000 a month. If it's a whole house, probably like $5000-$10000 a month. Occasionally, depending on the neighborhood, you can see these things go for $10K-25K, but I would say that's rarer and usually you're talking about something like 4000 square feet or more. My guess is this would rent out for about $7000-12000 a month if it's like 3000 square foot whole house in the right neighborhood. About half that per unit if it's subdivided into two floors.


rainbowtwilightshy

Yup I pay $7500 for a 3 bedroom 1.5 bath. And not nearly as pretty as this façade


RearEchelon

For one room, maybe


mossball2

for the front stairway


CaliAshy

LoL you have no idea


AndTheElephants

The mortgage payments are closer to $20K/month there for a house like that.


ManOfDiscovery

Jesus Christ. You know, I don’t consider myself a poor man, but at those prices I probably have more in common with one of the many living under a bridge.


AndTheElephants

A lot of the people in those tent communities probably have paying jobs with salaries that would be considered good-paying jobs in other parts of the country. HUD defined “Low Income Limits” in San Francisco as $82,200 for an individual and $117,400 for a family of four in 2018, based on 80% of the area's median income. However, the federal poverty guidelines in 2018 were only $12,140 for an individual and $25,100 for a family of four.


Bill_Cosbys_Balls

Lol thats cute


NerdAlurt

More realistically it would be about $10,000/mo. I know someone renting out their $3.5M house down the peninsula for $9500/mo


public_void

If that was listed for 5400 the line of applicants would be a mile long


mossball2

if that's $5400 a month in SF then rates have absolutely crashed since I left


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ImS0hungry

Same for Rye, NY.


zer0kevin

Such a cool city.


Dymosthenes

San Francisco has a famous row of these Victorian style houses called [the Painted Ladies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Painted_ladies)


Mister_Haaand

Probably worth $11 million in SF


BingoSpong

Wow! That place looks awesome!


rhet17

Looks like it could be Lombard Street? Or Filbert? Love this house...if only I had a few million. or several.


HamburgerEarmuff

I don't know how you would tell. It looks like a ton of streets in the northern half of the city.


sfcnmone

Bernal Heights. A pretty regular neighborhood off the tourist path.


aveganknight

So pretty


elyxiann

So beautiful


BiscuitCrumbsInBed

Thats a gorgeous looking house.


Ireadanything

That's so beautiful. That blue is absolutely stunning.


actingseeker

As a painter I can tell you that painting this house took a lot of effort and time.


SkirtApprehensive533

That is one of the most beautiful houses I’ve ever seen!


DopeArtichoke

Much praise to the owner for not turning it into some colorless 'sleek' modern 'minimalist' boring af purgatory.


i_found_the_cake

You're legally required to keep the facade of a house built before a certain year, sometime mid century like 1940s.


caspercarr

Wants it!


LoliArmrest

How I would love to live in an eccentrically colored home in the Bay Area


ProtonCanon

That is gorgeous.


crumb_burglar

I know this house and am stunned by it every time I walk by! Great photo


alifiguera

I would love to see the inside.


GullibleInevitable14

This is beautiful


emmettfitz

Looks like a happy Gru house.


becky_skeeto

I know the phrase "we need to normalize" is overused but we need to normalize painting houses cool colors


DangerousSnow1973

Beautiful


RedWings1319

Beautiful architecture in a great city. Problems like them all, sure, but there's so much greatness there as well.