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[Transfer Round Up and Discussion] Summer 2021

[Transfer Round Up and Discussion] Summer 2021

LagoonPatrol

I think it's a relief for us to not be pursuing Trippier, although I rate him highly for not just his all-round plays but also his attitude. My hope now is for us to properly target and go sign the right CDM instead of doing buying another player by the end of the transfer window.


thesmallprint13

The pain of not buying Trippier will definitely be offset if we get a midfielder in. Let's get it done.


DarloAngus

Has Varane completed is quarantine today? If I am not mistaken Monday was the 5th day unless we don’t count Thursday as he was only in the country for a couple of hours


Tomo28

I believe so yea. I'm sure I read a reputable source saying contract today and reveal tomorrow but I can't find it now!


Buffythedragonslayer

We should offer Pereira to PSV as their Ihattaren replacement


ri0t333

Where's he going?


Buffythedragonslayer

No clue.


bangofftarget

With the shitshow that's happening in Barcelona right now, we should be looking to get one of their 'unregistered' players on loan. Memphis maybe?


Seanog911

wouldnt be a bad idea, with Rashford out


Banyunited1994

They seem to be ignoring their problems and hoping they go away, I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes right down to deadline day before they finally relent on shipping some players off. Eating a big part of the wages of coutinho, griezemann and umtiti and the other overpaid fringe players and finding a way to get their wages off the books would prob move the needle more than surrendering their new players on loan.


Trade_Dramatic

We need to get a DM this season before the transfer window closes. Next season Pogba and Cavani are likely to leave so we’ll need a ST, CM and probably a RB on top of the DM. We probably won’t be able to complete all those signings next season and won’t be able to properly build a squad good enough to challenge for the title. So its crucial to get a DM in now 1) so we can challenge this year and 2) so we can focus on replacing Cavani and Pogba next season and adding other depth.


Mancchestar

Everyone says get a DM but who is there?


Tomo28

Saul Niguez maybe?


lafeeverte34

Hope Axel has an injury free season at Villa


Transit-Strike

I feel like we still really need to sort of GK sales (if possible), a RB and a proper CDM. A team needs stability in CBs and GK. SAF and others have talked about it. It's the only role Pep doesn't rotate at City. At RB, it seems like we could really get better than AWB RB since he loses concentration and struggles with attacking. At CM/CDM we just look all over the place. Bruno's place is cemented. But then does Pogba play? What is Donny's best role? Keep Fred or bring in a proper CDM? We'll still manage, but signings and deartures could really help.


Transit-Strike

On the post about James Madison, there were so many comments on "why Arsenal. Leicester are better?" It's the same reason Sancho left City. (He thought he'd have a better future in BvB). It's why Maguire signed with us (he thought United would grow further than Leicester and he'd have a better career and salary). A free years ago, we were overpaying for players. More Arsenal is in that stage of their rebuild. Even when RM and Barca struggle, playe still are desperate to join. Arsenal are a club in London with a bigger stadium and fanbase than Leicester. A player probably wants to be that missing ingredient


vulcan_one

>It's the same reason Sancho left City. (He thought he'd have a better future in BvB). He was a teenager who need game time to develop. Not already an established player who's being bought to go straight into the team. >It's why Maguire signed with us (he thought United would grow further than Leicester and he'd have a better career and salary). Even if you compare us and arsenal, we were doing much much better, we swung wildly from season to season but we had highs not just lows. >Arsenal are a club in London with a bigger stadium and fanbase than Leicester. Don't know what London has to do with it, international players may like the appeal of London more than other cities but he's English. It's a sideways move for him because no matter how big arsenal may have been, they've been going backwards for a long time, with no sign of improvement. They've been struggling for European qualification, didn't qualify this season and last season got Europa via FA Cup. Leicester are doing much better as it stands. So yes there's a case to be made arsenal are bigger than Leicester but unless something changes drastically as it stands the arsenal brand is in dying breaths, they haven't even gotten CL qualification for the 5th season running now, Leicester are more likely to than arsenal. It's a sideways move because arsenal have been shit for so long and Madison is key to Leicester so makes 0 sense to go there.


VirtuosoLoki

There is nothing wrong with being a squad player. Do you not remember how many squad players carried us to titles during SAF time? I agree we need to improve our 11. But criticizing a squad player for being a squad player is diabolical.


MeliodasRebirth

My only problem is paying world class / Xi quality wages fort them.


varwal

Well, if they offer something unique (like DJ), or are young and ramping up, or genuinely competing for the first team it for sure makes sense. But a B-version of an existing first team player who'd be a downgrade if they got injured seems like a waste.


SomeIrishFiend

[BBC Sport post about United moving for Messi](https://i.imgur.com/AUp3CDg.jpg) [It's from their gossip section](https://i.imgur.com/pMmb5ex.jpg)


[deleted]

It’s total bollocks, comes from speculation on a podcast. You can’t even call it journalism, pure clickbait.


essjay2009

It’s from their gossip section because it was in the Daily Star = 🤡


NightsAreTheNewDays

Spicy


[deleted]

Chelsea are getting a 5m loan fee with an obligation to buy for 35-40m euros from Roma for Tammy Abraham


Buffythedragonslayer

I just don't get it. Both us for Smalling and Arsenal for Xhaka had long ass negotiations with Roma underpaying back and forth with their options to buy and seem to cough up Chelsea's valuation within a day? Wth


chronoistriggered

Diamond hands baby! HODL!!! Oops wrong sub


Skyweb2020

How does Chelsea manage to pull off these huge transfers for players it deems surplus to requirements!


pirateprentice27

Money laundering.


Seb-sama

Because they don’t hold on to their fringe players for long, they’ll sell them while they still have value. They are pretty much ruthless which we need to learn. Look at us, we’re stuck here still with our fringe players because we can’t attract any buyers for them, nobody is going to pay €20m for the likes of Pereira or Dalot. While Liverpool, City, and Chelsea are selling what they don’t need or want for a good fee.


drrew76

Right, but sometimes that leads to them dumping talent like KDB and Mo Salah.


vulcan_one

And Lukaku.


AintThatJustTheWay12

Meanwhile people here get overly defensive about holding on to Dan James lol.


ShadowFlyer1

They are just weirdly insecure lol. I got downvoted to -10 when I said handing Williams a 70K a week contract was a crap idea. This is why we can't offload players and are always in mediocrity


KaitoAJ

I know we keep saying we need a CDM. Maybe we're gonna give Garner a chance and have a run at that position? When he featured against Everton I thought he looked physically much bulker and ready. Thoughts?


RedHabibi

We’re trying to win a title or a trophy. Most people would say we are now just 1, maybe 2 players away from really giving ourselves the best shot. A CDM, and in some cases, Trippier. Add a class CDM and we have a team ready to make it happen. I’m all for giving youth opportunities but the likelihood that Garner can play a significant amount of games and be that guy for us is minimal. On the other hand, add a ready now CDM and our 11 is all top quality. Garner can play in cups and such.


AngryUncleTony

Garner needs a full season of minutes *now* if he's going to help us two or three years from now. Loan is best option.


KaitoAJ

Of course I'm well aware we are trying to win a title or trophy. No need to be condescending about an opinion that is valid. Garner has had a great season at Nottingham Forrest and I think he's ready for the jump. Of course he won't be jumping into the first 11 immediately, but I think he's ready to share minutes in that double pivot in games. Edit: Why are people downvoting me for an opinion? C'mon man. I thought this is a discussion?


alpha1812

Personally I am not sure if sharing minutes will be enough for him, DM is a position that is more dependent on experience than talent, which is why most of us here believe he should go on loan again this season. Having Garner play CDM for us at his age can destroy his confidence and wreck his career. If anything I would let Phil Jones deputies as CDM this season rather than push Garner into that role right now. Jones is unlikely to start many matches as 4/5th choice CB but he has shown in the past that he can play CDM and it might revive his career as well.


KaitoAJ

Garner is a DLP/CDM in our academy actually. I think he can but maybe I'm overestimating his abilities (a bit of hype is also in this as well). He's had really good reviews from Nottingham Forrest fans so I think he may be in Ole's plans this season.


alpha1812

Let's wait and see, I think Ole might play him in a match or 2 before deciding if he wants Garner going out on loan or not. He is wanted by many clubs, so a last minute decision to loan him out before the window closes shouldn't be a problem.


xBoothy

We’re definitely making another signing. Credible reports saying we’re getting a ‘3rd significant signing’, a lot of people thought that would be tripper but now dalot looks to be staying, Trippier is most likely off the cards. You know what that means, CDM time baby


Buffythedragonslayer

That came from Luckhurst. Credible my ass.


ripCOVID-19

Which reports you reading mate 😂


AintThatJustTheWay12

Tier what I want to hear. (Which I support lol)


mu_37

Really? the only thing i saw credible sources say is we aren't getting anyone without sales, which don't seem to be happening.


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THEOSU007

It’s not that the squad isn’t good. It’s that we got two marquee signings for very solid prices and we badly need a DM. Those lower prices for Sancho and Varane should have been used to get us a good DM in combination with sales of some of our fringe players. Maybe it will still happen let’s see but our ability at selling our fringe players is absolutely terrible.


rainbowrathode

Petition to stop saying DLP. Just say CDM with passing ability. My two brain cells at night comprehended DLP as Distance Learning Program.


rodenttt

just say midfielder


Bombtwo

Dick Length Penetration


superhoffy

Not Dua Lipa?


RepresentativeNo379

Defensive Left Pivot


danystormborne

Disneyland Paris to me.


Isserley_

Seems we’re set to receive a £5m loan fee from Villa for Axel. Pretty good business that.


Irishone1999

Ngl I'm quite nervous that we're not gonna make another signing. If Ole trusts Dalot enough from training, fair enough. But I would at least like to see a pivot signing.


Trade_Dramatic

McTominay is in the 55th percentile for touches/90 and 51st percentile for passed attempted/90, those stats are diabolical for a midfielder in a possession system. He needs to significantly improve his positioning when we have the ball to making himself a passing option, and when he gets on the ball he needs to take more risks. He’s turning 25 in a few months mind you, so he isn’t young at all.


SensibleUtd

I mean - you hit the nail on the head in the sense that he's not best suited for a possession system. However there's a strong reason why he still plays above Matic or Pogba who definitely are above him in the two metrics you pointed out. His strengths are that he does a fantastic job tactically without the ball, and he really secures the defence. He's also a big game player - I thought he was one of the better players in the final. I disagree with others in terms of how he will be regarded as a potential Lingard - he has shown the ability to improve his game year on year, and last season he was our 5th highest goalscorer tied with Martial. He's not a great player, but a reliable player and one that will have a career at United.


media-police

I have a feeling Ole is planning a much expanded role for VDB this year and coupled with Pogba staying 1 more year, he feels we are good. Of-course the other factor is that he may not have been given more funds to re-enforce without selling and the demand for our players is actually quite poor. So ... "it is what it is"!


[deleted]

I think Mctominay will be another Lingard. He’ll get the “he’s young” treatment for years and years all while struggling to put in the performances that are needed at the level. He’s a squad player not a starter


CuddlyBear89

It's funny how the "pundits" always write us off these days but former players typically do not..


rainbowrathode

We need to have one more signing before the window closes.


JilJilJigaJiga

We will, keep faith in that JLingz sale.


Buffythedragonslayer

Don't forget Pereira


[deleted]

Can’t wait to see pogba combine with sancho


atehrani410199

So no more signings. Totally happy with that. Can’t wait for the season. GGMU.


lordofthezeros

Where have you read this?


JMX11011

How could you be happy with that? Our midfield is so unbalanced and will continue to get run over.


Wahlrusberg

A lot to be said about our midfield but we don't get run over. McFred lack incision when in possession, but not certainly not guile when out of it.


atehrani410199

I’m just not sure how you can expect ALL of our gaps to be plugged in one season after 7 years of squad mis management. Three-four seasons under ole seems perfect let reasonable. I’m happy with a Varane and Sancho. More than happy.


[deleted]

It shouldn’t take more than 3 summer windows to have a complete squad. Don’t know why you think otherwise. Klopp was ready to challenge for the PL and the CL in the same time frame. Having the mindset that we can’t expect to fix all our problems by now means that we’ll always be 3-4 players away from challenging. Next year Cavani and Pogba are both gone which means that we would need to sign a DM, CM, ST and RB so we’re once again back to square one.


atehrani410199

Okay. So it’s quite touted that we are in for a striker next season. Most likely haaland. Cavani will be replaced. Trippier will be out of the question then and by then we will know if Dalot is good enough to challenge AWB. And we will sign a dm next season, if not camavinga then another signing. What’s the point of being negative. How is that square one. We have addressed both CB positions. RB. Shaw looks excellent at LB and he has depth with Telles. Bruno has cantona’d the squad. Cavani beefed up the attack. Sancho plugged RW. How is this square one. Why do you choose to delude yourself in such a negative way.


BreTrapQueenTaylor

Might have to replace Martial too if he doesn’t show something.


[deleted]

> What is the point in being negative? It’s not about being negative. It’s about recognizing patterns in our recruitment strategy and operations. Every year it’s the same thing “we just need 3-4 players and we’re sorted”. Eventually you have to accept that we won’t get there with that same mindset. Clubs like Chelsea and City went all out in 1-2 windows. Liverpool went all out in that third window under Klopp and would have done so sooner if they had the money. That’s what we should be doing - going all out and fixing the problems before they get even worse. > How is that square one Because it is. Rebuilds shouldn’t take 4-5 years. If it takes that long you’ll eventually have to rebuild again. Last season we said we needed 3 players to challenge. Next season we’ll say the same thing. Haaland is going to cost 100m+ with agent fees and signing bonuses. A DM will cost 50m+ as will a Pogba replacement. If we need a RB, thanks another 30-40m. You’re looking at 200m+ outlay which is never going to happen under the current board because we never spent that much even pre-pandemic. So once again we’ll look to spread that over multiple years and who knows by then whether players like Bruno will get fed up and want to leave? So we’ll always be behind our rivals because we don’t set ourselves up for success If you think this is a good transfer window but don’t believe we’re ready to challenge for the title, then you’re lying to yourself about how good this window actually is


JMX11011

I feel like there's a really cheap player that could hold us over until the next transfer season.


KrystianCCC

You can be happy with what we achived this transfer window and at the same time be aware of what we still lack. We are not City/PSG/Chelsea, Cant fix 5 postions at once. Players we brought this summer are great step forward even if no one else comes. Come on people, football is just a hobby, no reason to support anyone if you are always negative.


[deleted]

> Cant fix 5 positions at once It will be the same story next season when Cavani and Pogba leave


JMX11011

Sorry, I actually have standards for manchester united, we've needed a CDM for a long time now. I support the club & for this reason i speak out on problems we have. Go support arsenal if your okay with mediocrity.


Too_bored_to_think

I don’t know why you are being downvoted, but I agree with this. We need to give Ole a squad capable of challenging for the title. Sancho is essentially someone we should have gotten in last season. This season, we should have added a CB (which we have) and a DM, so we can blow our budget on a Pogba replacement and a striker next season.


KrystianCCC

Standards of spending 200-250m in one window? We dont do that.


JMX11011

I was more speaking on how your okay with not buying a cdm. Which was more important then a winger and CB imo. It's incompetence.


KrystianCCC

Sancho and Varane were available for right sum on the market and we ve done great job securing them and judging reports good CDM for United standards simply isn't available. There is one hot name in Camavinga but he simply prefers staying in France.


JMX11011

We don't need camavinga, he's a box to box.


KrystianCCC

Ok then, so give me one or two names of CDMs avaible on market.


JMX11011

That's the job of the scouts mate. How do you think BVB & other clubs always find gems.


euoi

was there a report form someone?


atehrani410199

A few noises is all. Nothing definitive.


CuddlyBear89

Metro reporting Jesse Lingard to Arsenal after Maddison pursuit doesn't pan out lol..


septeal

to the dance floor it seems


ty_perry_much

I would absolutely hate seeing Lingard at Arsenal. He's good enough for Leicester for sure.


Eleven918

Can dance at the Emirates all the time now!


Samarjith147

Only for Lingard to turn them down 😂


tanmaythomas

Anguissa was left out of Fulham training because he's trying to leave, any chance we are a good fit for him?


JilJilJigaJiga

Roma and Valencia are pursuing him.


s4creed

A good DM would have us challenge the title. Now we have to wait on luck for the title


DrSquare

It’s gone deathly silent…. Do you think anyone else will come in this window?


xBoothy

Yes. Now we are keeping Dalot, we are going to get a CDM imo. My gut feeling is Neves, come back to this comment after deadline day


wdtpw

I think we'd snap up Camavinga if he said he would come. But he's waiting to hear from other teams, so not at the moment and not likely in general.


nullpost

PSG seem in for him now so that seems unlikely.


rogues69

No


JilJilJigaJiga

If JLingz leaves, yes.


tameoraiste

Not what people want to hear but no. We’ve had several briefings since we signed Varane saying we would need to sell to buy. The only ‘transfer out’ looking any bit likely at the moment is Lingard, and that relies on Arsenal buying Maddison. Even with that sale and the loan fees, I don’t see that being enough to upgrade our midfield


ScaryBeat

So who else is left to start training? Cavani, Amad, Bailly and Varane only right? When is Cavani due to be back? Is he just going through quarantine currently?


nedlogb94

Been so long what is the hold up with Edi


__auris__

I think we gave him an extended holiday after he signed that extension


ScaryBeat

I think quarantine but not completely sure though.


nedlogb94

Yeah it is but been going for ages and Ole hasn’t given an update


ScaryBeat

When you say it like that it makes me worry. We also had no updates for Dean for so long why he wasn't retuning to training and later we got to know it was covid. Hope that's not the case with Cavani.


stranglethebars

Just saw [this](https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/ander-herrera-man-utd-transfer-24718813): > Manchester United could eye a return to Old Trafford for Ander Herrera this summer as PSG anticipate interest in the midfielder as they look to fund Lionel Messi's bumper deal. Would you like to see it happen? Why/why not?


usamapervaiz

Yukh


Wahlrusberg

Would have been useful over the past two seasons, but absolutely not worth bringing in for a fee now.


rioferd888

Fuck no


MeliodasRebirth

Ew...


Buffythedragonslayer

Oh yeah give psg a favour to land Messi while they're waiting for Pogba to run down the contract. Pass


euoi

> Ander Herrera Don't think we can pay him what he wants


N00BBuild

Wouldn’t really want him back, especially on that 300K/week deal. Good servant and player for the club, but we moved on. Plus he isn’t an out and out DM.


Thevanillafalcon

I agree but on the other hand, you say he's not a DM and he's not but ole as per mile phelan isn't necessarily looking for an out and out DM. Do you remember how fucking good we were with Herrera and Pogba in midfield? I think that's what he wants to recreate. I agree Anders time is done though


highertellurian

They had matic behind who was a brick wall, that's the only reason it worked. Herrera doesn't have the discipline to play as a DM. He is more of an attacker. Yeah really good point phelan made on the five podcast. They aren't looking for a stereotypical number 6 DM. Someone like camavinga neves or saul can easily fit in and work because of our worldclass CBs


lustylotus

Reddevils EPL fantasy league code this season?


Seb-sama

Still no proper outgoings? Are we seriously thinking some sucker would pay €20m for the likes of Pereira and Dalot? or £30m for Lingard?


superhoffy

Maybe someone can come in with some Dollars for Dalot, or some Dinari for De Gea? ;)


ty_perry_much

Maybe some lira for Lingard.


superhoffy

Pesetas for Pereira maybe?


superhoffy

Today's news out of Milan seems to mean the end of United pursuing a right back. I feel like they're keeping something up their sleeve regarding a midfielder. If VdB is not gonna play in the double pivot or 433 and Garner isn't promoted to the first team squad, you surely can't go into the new season with only Matic, McT and Fred as serious options?


Wahlrusberg

VdB will play in double pivot. It's where he finished last season, it's where he's been in his preseason the news from United journalists has been about him doing everything he can to bulk up this summer.


superhoffy

I see what you mean, but I don't think you can learn too much from pre-season. At first United had one established midfielder (Matic) available and 5 million AMs to choose from, so for me that's why VdB hasn't been seen in AM. I think we'll have to wait and see how often Donny plays in midfield this season, but I do remember Ole saying he'd signed Donny to be a #10, helping to link the attack. That's obviously not gonna be the norm this season.


Thevanillafalcon

If it's Jimmy Garner, and he turns out to be mint. I'll get my willy out


brown_herbalist

Guys we need a DM, yes DM we need. DM pls, just one DM. Edit : Now with Dalot staying with us this season, i dont think we will be going for Trippier, so Lingard & Pereira if got sold means then we are getting a DM right ? Yes ?


Dr-Cloudy

Hopefully you're sacrifice bears fruit! Cheers mate! Down voted!


Comicksands

Tchouameni getting linked to pool and Chelsea. We need to snap this guy up


Ruudvankeano

The "if inter come for martial" questions are ridiculous. He won't be sold, He's going to bang them in this Season, then we can either stick with him or sell him properly. Live with it.


nullpost

I don’t think we have the depth to sell this season.


view_sauce

Looking forward to big things from bald headed Anto


rioferd888

Unless inter come in with the 115m euros, there isn’t a cunt hairs chance martial leaves


Mr_Procrastinator103

Fuck me... Looks like Chelsea is going to get Messi. Simon Johnson said that Chelsea have made an offer for Messi and Loic Tansi from RMC said no agreement with PSG as an English team made a huge offer for him.


Witter87

Do you believe everything you read? if he has a choice between Chelsea and PSG there is only one winner plus he gets to play with Neymar again


Dr-Cloudy

Imagine a choice between playing with Neymar or Lukaku


JilJilJigaJiga

> Looks like Chelsea is going to get Messi. Simon Johnson said that Chelsea have made an offer for Messi A club making an offer doesn't mean it is going to get the player. If that was the case, Trippier would already be a Man Utd player by now.


Witter87

Apparently Tottenham made a offer so he must be having his medical right now


stranglethebars

WTF? I was just about to ask about Lukaku possibly signing for Chelsea. So, Messi to Chelsea now? In addition to Lukaku? Anyway, how do you think Lukaku would do at Chelsea this season?


Dr-Cloudy

Liverpool in for Tchouaméni! I'd love him here instead. :(


JilJilJigaJiga

Shit tier, ignore.


VKDNyke_

Wait, what tier is this? Because if he's actually for sale, we should be all over this deal. I was always under the impression that he was going to cost us a £45-50m+ deal.


Seanog911

Price quoted is £25m insane if we're not in for him for that amount


VKDNyke_

Absolutely, I have second worries about him being a bit raw for the PL, but his talent and last year's performance gazumps that. If he does end up requiring time however, we can always loan him back for the time being. The thing is, people are expecting him to do a Fofana but it's not that easy.


SlytherinMan9

Complete hypothetical but Inter and us have a good relationship. They need to replace Lukaku…. Say they come with 50m for Martial. Do we take it?


xBoothy

50m? Absolutely


Eleven918

Nope. Who are you going to replace him with if you do?


SlytherinMan9

If we get 50m? DCL.


Eleven918

1) I don't really rate him. 2) No way he is going to be that cheap. They will demand something absurd. 3) He is injured.


stranglethebars

1) Good for you. 2) Maybe he didn't mean that he'd be signed for 50m, but that that money would contribute toward the sum. Are United borderline broke at the moment? (No, not sarcasm! I'm not sure about the financial situation.) 3) For how long? That said, I'm not saying that Martial definitely should be sold and DCL bought.


Eleven918

The only one I would take for Tony + Cash is Lutaro but Inter won't do that deal. With our finances, we should be going for players who have a high ceiling and a potential to be world class if not already world class.


phoenix_16

“Potential to be world class” doesn’t really narrow down the sample size as much as you might like to think. That basically puts anyone under 30 in contention.


SlytherinMan9

Agreed on points 2+3. More of a pipe dream. Hard not to rate him tho, he was 6th highest scorer in the prem.


Eleven918

Ok, I'll put it this way, I don't think he is MUFC quality. We are not winning titles with him as a forward. if you take G+A he does not even make it into the top 50 in the world for last season.


HerrerasaurusWrecks

Those stats are for Everton, and over the past couple years he has taken massive strides. Only 24 as well, definitely time for him to improve. However, historically not a good finisher (constantly underperforms xG). Having said that, one thing we have started doing that Ole mentioned was buy the priority signing even if it means waiting as opposed to a worse player but bringing them in earlier. People can disagree on DCL's ability, but I think everyone agrees that Haaland is much better and younger. If we're going to move on Martial and want to replace him (which I think isn't shrewd unless we get an insane offer), we shouldn't bring in DCL. Either relatively cheap stop gap solution then go for Haaland next summer or trust the attacking options we have without him.


Eleven918

The only person I would be ok with getting this summer if Tony leaves (I don't want him out, I think he will have a solid season if he stays injury free) is Lutaro but he is probably going to break the bank and Inter won't do that deal.


SlytherinMan9

Why would you take G+A away for a striker?


ID6WU

Because he hasn’t actually got a reason for thinking DCL isn’t good enough.


Eleven918

What has DCL really done that you guys think he is good enough to play for us? One decent season under Ancelotti's Everton and you guys want him to be our striker for the next decade? Our team depended a lot on penalties last season, it usually wasn't Bruno that was winning them. So you would discount that by ignoring assists? As I said in my comment below, even if you just take goals, he is 30th in the list. We can do so much better.


ID6WU

His link up play is fine, he’s good at holding the ball up and he’s a big threat inside the box with his movement and aerial presence. He got 16 open play league goals playing for a negative Everton side last season and won 2 penalties. I haven’t even said I want us to sign him, just that you clearly haven’t got an actual reason for not wanting him. Do you seriously expect a striker playing for a mid table team to be topping lists around Europe? Everton were 11th in chances created in the league yet he had the 2nd most open play goals behind only Kane.


Eleven918

Cos you can win penalties and not take them, also its a team sport. If you are setting up goals who cares if you are not the one that converts them. If you take just goals, he is tied for 30th overall in the world in his best season to date.


Exige_

Everton aren’t selling DCL a week before the season starts for 50m….


SlytherinMan9

I know. And we aren’t selling Martial. These are all hypotheticals


Dr-Cloudy

I see the Martial hate! Would be absolutely amazing to see him turn his haters into lovers this season! The PL ain't ready for Bald Tony!


JilJilJigaJiga

I can see it happening IF we can get short term cover for his position, for a year. Don't see Ole letting him go otherwise.


hans_erlend

Seems irrational to me. Rashford out til October and Greenwood as back up for a 36(?) YO cavani.. nah. He may be lazy, but on his day he is really good


SlytherinMan9

Idk. Would suck if he tanked his value more this season. We have the wingers depth if Greenwood had to move to a 9 spot.


ColtCallahan

Absolutely.


AB092

In a heartbeat. I would take 35-40 mill for him


FlatHalf

Lol. So please tell us where you will find a Martial replacement for 35-40 mil.


666spacecowboy

Would Brozovic be a good signing?


Wahlrusberg

*On paper* yes he'd be almost perfect, would add fantastic playmaking and intelligent defending to the double pivot. But you never know how a Serie A player is going to adapt to the league, especially a midfielder.


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Games at times even detailed ones can be so wrong, Shaw has 8 vision in FM21, given that he was the 2nd most important creative outlet 8 vision is a joke.


ancienthunter

yeah it sucks Telles is the better option at LB in the game even tho shaw was better in real life.


hurfery

8 out of 20? Yeah that's BS.


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Yup. I hope they had dynamic abilities or I am pretty sure they will update this in near future.


RedDevil_Forever

Diogo Dalot expected to be one of two right-backs at #MUFC this season, following Euros + good pre-season. Kieran Trippier pursuit paused due to Atletico price; looks set to stay that way. \[[Laurie Whitwell](https://twitter.com/lauriewhitwell/status/1424763107176550404?s=20), Tier 3\]


lustylotus

and rightly so. it just makes sense. AWB will play 60%+ of the games as he also needs them to improve. Then Dalot can deputise for the Norwich and League cup, random UCL team games. Besides, [i've argued before](https://old.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/n4ehlu/daily_discussion/gwxcbc6/ ) that Dalot has great potential. Also with Varane as the covering CB, I'm less worried about Dalot getting caught up in the offensive half


Exige_

Meh no surprises there really. Would have been nice but not at the price they want.


agentjob

Leicester have done brilliantly snapping up Soumaré. He'll become another gem in midfield like how Kante, Ndidi and Tielemans became for them.


darthkimon

The robinhood of PL.. Beat the rivals and bottle it just at the right time to pave the way for us to the top lol


Tukee92

I find myself rooting for Leicester when they pop on because they do things the right way. They have surpassed Arsenal, Everton, and Spurs IMO


VictorMaguire

Rhetorical question: How can PSG sign Mbappe, Neymar AND Messi and not violate FFP rules?


ColtCallahan

FFP has been relaxed during COVID. So PSG don’t have to worry about it now. They’ve got 2/3 years to find a way to sort it out. They probably see Messi as well worth the risk.


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They won’t be sanctioned. PSG stood by UEFa during the ESL fiasco. They have a lot of political capital now


Exige_

Stuff like this borders on conspiracy level crap.


Thevanillafalcon

You say that and yet the owner of PSG was literally put on the UEFA board before the super League came about. That's why they weren't in it. It was too late, they'd picked a side. It was nothing to do with the good of the game. The thing about conspiracies is that some of them are real, I'd keep a healthy skeptisim obviously, and I don't believe there's a big over arching conspiracy in the world but if you read about the stuff the CIA did in the 60s you'd tell me I was a fucking nutter. That and football is proveably corrupt. The FBI raided FIFA lmao


DamashiT

There are rumours that FFP is going to be scrapped and replaced. It was already confirmed that PSG will not be sanctioned until 2023 and by that time FFP won't exist or they'll find some other way to let them off the hook. It's not a conspiracy to notice that some powerful people are in contact with each other and "loyalty" is rewarded. FIFA/UEFA are companies, not some charity foundations.


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It’s not really a conspiracy. It’s a real possibility. If Uefa was really interested in taking FFP seriously, they would have done a much better job enforcing it. Considering that Man City wasn’t even investigated until after those leaks came out, one can rightly assume that uefa isn’t going to do anything.


JilJilJigaJiga

They'll save 40+35m after Neymar's and Mbappe's transfers get amortized. They should still move quite a few players to make it work. Lot of highly paid midfielders in the squad.


Sens1r

That's not how this works.


JilJilJigaJiga

That's still money that can be put towards the wages, given the only amortization payment for this year is 60/5 = 12m for Hakimi. There is no wage cap, so PSG is free to shuffle any of the transfer money around. That 70m isn't going to sit idle. This is exactly how Juve stocked up on players last decade.


chivasboy1079

From what I’ve seen, they can’t and violated the FFP rules, but won’t be sanctioned for at least 3 years. By that time Messi will probably be gone and they’re hoping they become European champions


Exige_

They can’t. IMO they are banking on the punishment coming in a couple of years rather than now and even then they can look to challenge and frustrate any punishment. Unfortunately it’s getting a little silly.


Rascha-Rascha

Apparently the next time they can actually suffer consequences is in three seasons, so they're on a bit of a fuck-it trip.